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Road_thing
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:33 am: | 
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I've had good luck getting those rotor bolts loose by heating them up with a propane torch. It doesn't take much heat, just put the tip of the flame on the head of the bolt for a few seconds, then back 'em on out.
rt |
Kdkerr2
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 11:40 am: |
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A word of caution on the propane torch. If you get too much heat on the socket it will ruin the temper on the head and then you'll strip the socket right out for sure.
KK |
Sleez
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:58 pm: |
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i am considering the brembo kit, rotors, calipers, master cyl, bracket adapters and hardware, but the note says not compatible with the cable type speedo??? anyone have this setup??? |
Road_thing
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 02:05 pm: |
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KK: Absolutely right! We're just trying to loosen them, not anneal them!
rt |
Kdkerr2
| | Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 09:47 pm: |
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Sleez:
I just went back to my garage and looked at the speedo drive on my X1 wheel. It looks to me like there could indeed be a clearance problem between a left rotor and the speedometer drive itself. Unfortunately I don't have a 2nd rotor to check this out. More study of the matter is needed. Also there's a very good possibility that hangers or brackets will be needed to hold the cable away from the added left rotor. KK |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 11:45 am: |
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I just purchased a dual rotor setup. I went with the Buell Nissin caliper on the right (stock was the PM) and an aftermarket Nissin caliper on the left side with an adapter. I'm using two stock rotors. Altogether the price for everything was around $900 retail.
I'll probably be putting it on this weekend.
All the Harley guys in the shop think I'm crazy for doing it...they say Buells have too much braking power as is. |
Aaomy
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 12:24 pm: |
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hey guys tried experimenting with two brands or "screw grab" or a carbide type grit to use on tools to help them grab. this stuff works great on the stainless fasteners. a stainless 10-32 was stripping the head at about 10-12 fpt. but with both types of "grit" i tried it twisted the heads off the 10-32s before stripping the socket. imposable to do with out the grit. couldnt tell how much more torque i was able to achieve but was rather impressed with the results. maybe i can play more latter. move up to 1/4 -20s ran out of 10-32s |
Henrik
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 01:27 pm: |
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That's great info Aaomy. Thanks for taking the time to test and post your results.
Henrik |
Sleez
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 04:35 pm: |
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Kdkerr2; seems someone has to know for sure if it will clear the hub and of course the speedo cable itself would be tricky? thanks |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:20 pm: |
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Rick,
If you're using two stock rotors, the left one will have the spokes angled the wrong way, no? It'll work, but might look a little funny.
A customer recently wanted to do the conversion, he had the right and left side 6 pot Nissin calipers (i've never seen one of the left side Nissin calipers, Just PM's). But he wanted the rotor spokes angled the correct way. Turns out that the EBC 340mm Rotors ARE available in left and ride side versions for the same price. The Left side is a special order, and will take a couple months to get, but the distributor has ordered them and they should eventually come in. I believe it for certain when I see it.
We sell dual disc Brembo conversions that come with 4 pot calipers and 320mm rotors here . But to have twin 340mm rotors with dual 6 pot calipers? THAT is some serious stopping power.
Al |
Kdkerr2
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:49 pm: |
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Al:
You didn't answer one of thread's most powerful questions: Will the left disk add on clear the speedo driver & cable on older tube frame Buells?
Disregard if you don't know.
Thanks
KK |
Steveshakeshaft
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 05:26 am: |
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I personally know of a '98 S1WL with dual front PFM disks (with 2 x 6 pot PFM calipers). I also know of another set on order for another guy's S1. So I can't speak for other makes, but there shouldn't be too much difference?
HTH.
Steve
steve_s@ukbeg.com
www.ukbeg.com |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 01:25 pm: |
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Yeah, the one is the "wrong" way. I like it. I staggered the left one and it looks better. Sure looks fierce. I can't wait to ride it. My bike is not about looks. Most people comment that it looks like a real POS. As long as it runs and handles well I couldn't care less. EBC rotors are an awesome value for such a quality rotor. I did this on the cheap so I didn't go with 'em. |
Sleez
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 04:30 pm: |
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hey rick, post some pics of the left side brake
thanks |
Firemanjim
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 09:02 pm: |
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Kerwin,you must have missed it as I posted that I have the dual disc set-up on my S-2 and the speedo drive will clear.I had to grind a tiny amount on the center section of the disc to clear--actually just put a 45 degree angle to it instead of the sharp 90 it had.And a tiny bit on the drive unit.I will post pics when I get home from firehouse on weds. |
Sleez
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 02:11 pm: |
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hey jim,
which left rotor do you have? Buell?
pic please |
Firemanjim
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 09:01 pm: |
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I have a L/S stocker,but it's never been on.Had a l/s EBC on at one time,think I still have that somewhere.Now have the fancy ones that came with the ISR set-up I got from Cap.
Pics have to wait for me to actually be home with bike and camera,not at firehouse with neither.I think I actually have the last parts aquired to breathe life back into the S-2 after it's catastrophic demise at Laguna Seca last july,YIPPEE!!! |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 01:20 pm: |
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I've been riding with the new setup a bit. I like it. You can really feel the gyro effect of all the extra mass. No big deal...just takes a little more steering effort and it makes the front end feel super stable at speed. Gone is the powerful initial bite of the stock stuff. Braking effort is now much more progressive though there's a bit less feel. I went around the neighborhood for a spirited ride and touched the rotors when I came back. They were warm, where with the single rotor I would've been burnt! |
Sleez
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 03:49 pm: |
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i'd be putting mine on my magnesium dymag wheels, so the mass should be a wash, better bite though??
can't wait to get those mags on something!! |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 12:57 pm: |
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There's a lot of braking power there...almost excessive. It's great! |
Firemanjim
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 12:08 am: |
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OK,here are a series of pics I took today.One is a stock 1st series S-2 front rotor,one is an EBC L/S front,suitably rusted from sitting,one is a Buell L/S front PM caliper still in the packaging(eat your hearts out),and last is my S-2 with the ISr front and the speedo cable showing.
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Al_lighton
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 12:27 am: |
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Rick,
Watch your compounds with that setup. The Ferodo CP911 or maybe even the Lyndalls might not be great for street use with that much swept area and rotor mass. Your heat saturation rate will be much lower, and race compounds that need heat to work may be ineffective for street use unless you ride like a madman. Less expensive street pads may give you the best performance. But jeez, with that much caliper and rotor, even sucky pad performance will likely still slow you down effectively.
Al |
Sleez
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 01:08 pm: |
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thanks jim, where can that setup be had? |
Firemanjim
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 09:40 pm: |
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I got mine from Cap--he's a regular on this board and had put together this package some time ago.I've seen a couple of the PM set-ups go on eBay.Just got to watch for em.
The other option is to pick up some 6 piston set-up from another bike(GSX-R or Hayabusa,etc.) and have some friendly machinist make you some mounts--like Cuzzin Bob--At least you have the 7/8" bars so finding a different master cylinder if you need one is not a big deal. |
Jersey_thunder
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:34 pm: |
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Buell L/S front PM caliper <----um, where can i get one?
TONY |
