| Author | Message | ||
     Al_Lighton |
Jeff, I have the race air cleaner and ignition, and had the race header, but never had a race muffler, was using the old supertrapp with the separate right angle inlet pipe until it failed the usual way. Supertrapp customer service is going to send me a new muffler that supposedly works with the race header, even though I've been using the one they sent me before (that doesn't work with the race header) for a few weeks now. They said to figure out which one I want to keep, then send the other one back. Now the one that is on there now is one that they sent me for free for the failed one, and I believe they polished it special for me because my failed one had been polished. Their customer service rocks. Bryant Jones and Gerry Evon have been very communicative and have bent over backwards to fix my problems. The muffler that's on it now also fits very well and sounds and looks nice. Supertrapp is doing a lot right in my book right now. Al | ||
| Jerome |
I concure with Al's statement regarding SuperTrapp customer service : there're going to replace straight my old SuperTrapp with a new version fitting my race header, just like for Al. And I live in France ! That's rare enough to be highlighted. Big thumb-up to SuperTrapp. Not only do they produce one of the best pipes for our bike, but also they take care of customers, even if they are on the other side of the pond. These guys definitely deserve to get some of our bucks... | ||
| Jocklandjohn |
Is it possible to buy the new Supertrapp in the UK yet? I tried a few dealers for the one that Al has (using the serial number he posted a while back) but no-one has heard of it. Is it not imported yet? Anyone able to offer advice? | ||
| Jerome |
Jocklandjohn : I was told today by Wilwaukee Twin, the main Buell dealer in France (there are in Metz, eastern France), that they received a few days ago the first SuperTrapp as described by Al Lighton (including a new design of the front tube and new fittings). So it should also be available in the UK as well by now. It is made to fit a 2.5" stock header but they also provide it with an aluminium ring for fitting an european 2" header. | ||
| Jocklandjohn |
Thanks Jerome, I will do some hunting around the UK. | ||
| Peter |
J'n'J, I have heard that the next production run on the new mufflers will be on the 15th of this month, so I would expect to see more of the available after then. PPiA | ||
| Jocklandjohn |
Thanks Peter. Will keep an eye out for one. Is this new Supertrapp going to be a Buell badged item , and available from Buell dealers?? Or is it available from any 'trapp stockists? | ||
| Rocketman |
I think Peter likes Supertrapp's customer services too ! Don't ya mate  Jockmobile : The dealer in Metz will ship to the UK. I forget the managers name, but he's an ok guy. Mark bought his sss.arm from them. Perhaps he could tell you more regarding their overseas dealings, or better still, just give them a ring, they speak our language. Rocket in England | ||
| Peter |
Jocklandjohn, Word is that the new one will be badged either as a Supertrapp or as a Buell item. You choose. I have heard you pay more for it when it is Buell badged, but that is only hearsay. I've been told that they are designed along the lines of the mufflers that Supertrapp give Ducati for their race bikes. As Rocket said, their service department seems to be doing much more than it used to PPiA | ||
| Jocklandjohn |
Sounds good fellas - thanks for the advice. | ||
| Josh |
www.accwhse.com reports they have SuperTrapp 725-71235 (RaceHeader) instock for $284. ASB says its coming, but they don't have them yet. But I haven't received an email confirmation from SuperTrapp that it will work with the race header. Josh | ||
| Blake |
Please support our good friends and sponsors, the guys who provide a full line of Buell aftermarket goodies. Ever see accwhse's web site? Talk about pathetic! You have to type in the product ID and description by hand to order online. Blake | ||
| Josh |
They (accwhse) also take days to ship, it's a pain in the ass to return stuff, they (usually) have no knowledge of the products and refer you to the manufacturer, they have practically no info on their website... Josh | ||
| Ccryder |
Hey JA FWIW: Just talked with Brian, at Supertrap, to see about getting my original IDS replaced. He said "No problem, except they can't ship until after the 25th of this month." Their production won't be finished until then and there are a number of others ahead of me for a replacement. So I have my RA# and address so Monday it goes to Ohio. Soggy in Indiana. Neil S. | ||
| Josh |
Neil, You sure it's 725-71235 that they're shipping as the replacement? I'll probably stick with Kevin's (lent) race muffler for a while. Why don't you come over and let me hear the IDS when you get it ;) Josh | ||
| Ccryder |
Josh: Yep, and I'll be your way in a week or two but with the 2Bro's unless the IDS is early. later | ||
| Buelliedan |
Motorcycle acc. Wherehouse also charges outrageous shipping charges. I was going to order 3 t-shirts from them one day. sale price was $35, total after shipping $50!! I asked if that was correct. lady assured me that $15 was the shipping charge. For 3 T-shirts!! I told her to cancel my order. Dan | ||
| Rick_A |
I covered my headers in high temp insulating wrap...goodbye hot leg! | ||
| Rocketman |
And hello more performance Rocket in England | ||
| Sybren |
Wrapping the headers improves performance? Sybren. | ||
| Rocketman |
I've never been convinced that it worked well enough to add any noticable improvement so I've never tried it. Co-incidentally though, Peter and I talked about this on our way to the States, which lead to me asking Joe George for his opinion. His reply (abreviated) was something like " You bet. It's worth a bunch of horse power". Rocket in England | ||
| Schemky |
Sybren, The idea behind wrapping the header is to reduce exhaust heat transfer to the atmosphere. Exhaust gases have a tendency to loose speed as they cool, which can happen pretty quickly in a thin tube header exposed to a cooling air stream, Drag racers have used this for years. However, I am not convinced the hassle of wrapping the header is worth the effort. I have found the wrap beneficial in the past to protect heat sensitive items, i.e. starter solenoids. Also, DO NOT order this "stuff" from supply houses. If you have a local "Rubber & Gasket" supplier, this material can be purchased for a fraction of the regular price. Ask for a fiberglass insulator matting, they sometimes have odd cuts/scrap pieces you can get cheap/free. | ||
| Aaron |
I used to use it on my race car just to keep underhood and firewall temps down. used both the fiberglass and ceramic styles. I dyno tested it on the LSR bike, but couldn't find any additional power. The stuff is a hassle. It rots out, absorbs fluids, shreds and comes off, etc. Figure on replacing it periodically. | ||
| Schemky |
Aaron, I concur, and as a last point, I used the wrap for years on a V-8 header assembly. When I removed the wrap, the metal had deteriorated to the point of being unusable. I surmised the heat retention fatiqued the mild steel tubing, which was not designed to operate under elevated temps imposed by the using the wrap. Your results are interesting and consequently confirms my impressions of before and after results based on 1/4 mile E.T. | ||
| Sybren |
Hmmm... no wrapping for me! I ride my bike through hail, dirt, rain and whatever falls out of the sky. I don't think tape will do much good to the headers once soaked with snow and roadsalt. For the same reason I won't use the Force intake. Sybren. | ||
| Orion |
I'm sending my headers off to JetHot this winter. Kind of expensive, but will be functional plus look damn cool. J.D. | ||
| Road_Thing |
Schemky/Sybren/Aaron: I wrapped the pipe on S1#2 to try to reduce the "burnt-leg-in-the-Texas-summer" syndrome, but it didn't make as big a difference as I'd hoped. My denim dyno says the power is about the same as with the unwrapped pipe. Nobody has yet mentioned the God-awful smell that the stuff gives off the first few times you heat it up, plus you'll have people blowing their horns at you in traffic to point to the smoke and tell you that your bike's on fire! I think it'll come off soon. Chalk up another $50 to experience. r_t | ||
| Sarodude |
Regarding various pipe wraps and coatings... Aside from fringe benefits of keeping OTHER parts of a bike / car / whatever cooler, there isn't necessarily a power increase. What may happen is that you'll CHANGE the power characteristics of a given pipe. If more heat stays in the pipe / exhaust gas, the speeds of the gas and the waves traveling through it will be higher effectively SHORTENING your exhaust - probably by a pretty small amount. Another one of those things where you may CHANGE something. Just don't necessarily expect it to be better... -Saro | ||
| Schemky |
Sybren, Don't NOT use the Force intake due to weather constraints. I have used one for going on three years now, in more rain than I wanted to travel through. . . . . no problems. Besides, my 6'2" frame has enough knee clearance so that I never hit my knee on the intake. The Force looks trick, but the quality is only "acceptable", whereas the price is "unacceptable". Just depends on your preference. A fool and his money. . . . . | ||
| Rocketman |
Well I guess it's over to you Joe ! And you know, I wondered why Aaron hadn't used it on the LSR Buell. Rocket in England |
