| Author | Message | ||
     Aesquire |
So, in Washington State, I need to use an electric manure spreader to protest at the Capitol? There's a video game where the guns of one cult are gas powered, and the animation isn't loading the weapon, it's yanking the starter cord handle. ( Borderlands 3 ) Washington State makes me want to build one that works in real life. Just as a joke, mind you! ( that string trimmer that never feeds right and.... Uh... Better not ) Although a full steam punk working steam powered nerf gun would be legal and an excuse to get that 3D printer...  Has Washington banned steam power? | ||
| Hootowl |
Quote - The Tesla update/recall of software for an experimental autopilot system You are doing it too. . Autopilot is not experimental. FSD is. Every Tesla has autopilot. | ||
| Aesquire |
Any autopilot in an automobile is experimental. The crude collision avoidance stuff in my Toyota sure is. Nice, useful, but it's not future tech. Tesla's otoh, is well developed and improving. I get that you draw a line between "full self drive" and autopilot. But that's marketing. Robots flying airplanes... Auto pilots... have been in development since before WW2. The early versions just used gyros to keep the aircraft upright and got more complex, heading hold, altitude hold, for decades. The more modern auto land and programed course changes computers are much more complex and use GPS. Collision avoidance? You're going to laugh. The FAA has mandated an interactive system where planes tell each other where they are and their vectors.... They don't have AWACS radar on every plane. It's kinda insane from a bureaucracy and available technology. Heck, I'm shopping for my next GPS variometer, with glide path calculating "can I reach my airport" features so I can tell when to stop scratching for lift and make my final speed run... And what speed works with the glider's actual polar graph. The size of a phone! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_to_fly Quite the change from a MacCready Speed Ring I custom made to match my ProAir glider's performance and did all the calculations in my head in flight. But it doesn't talk to airliners to tell them where I am. Yet. How many years of functional auto robotic driving? My Dodge has buttons to maintain speed. Period. Cruise control. Not any change from the 1970s Polara. I use it a lot. Avoids speeding ticket if used properly. Won't if not.  The Rav-4 will keep a following distance, much safer, nice to use. But the lane keeping is primitive and annoying. ( to me, anyway ) Adaptive or radar cruise. Certainly not an autopilot. I'm a bit envious of the bleeding edge adapters, the actual autopilot buyers. But while I might grasp the distinction between cruise control and robo-driving, "autopilot" is pretty much what a layman will hear when you talk robotic car control. So.. What's the difference between "tesla autopilot" and FSD? And would anyone other than a smart owner or a legitimate auto journalist know? Feel free to jump all over the editors and lousy ignorant "journalists". In fact, please. | ||
| Hootowl |
Dude. It is absolutely not marketing. Autopilot is only for freeway use. It is exceedingly good at it. I drove across the country using it and never had to intervene. FSD is a different animal, albeit the same species. I have to intervene a lot. Driving on surface streets is a few orders of magnitude harder than driving on the freeway. v12 of FSD is not being advertised on their web site as being in beta. It is deployed to employees now, and should start hitting the fleet in a few weeks. FSD12 is neural net AI end to end, from camera ingest to control input. The current FSD consists of hundreds of thousands of lines of code. 12 has none. It is entirely AI training based. I believe that they will have to add code to keep it from driving too much like a human. It rolls through stop signs if there are no other vehicles present. It ignores speed limits if road conditions warrant faster speeds. All the stuff humans do, that we should not be doing. In other words, it drives too much like a human. | ||
| Hootowl |
When I say I have to intervene a lot, it is not because I think it is going to drive into a building or a parked car, it is because it is hesitating to accelerate through an intersection, or failing to take a smooth line through a left hand turn across oncoming traffic. I have no doubt that it would safely make its way along its route, but it would piss off a lot of people behind it. And it would look like the driver was intoxicated. It gets me to work and back with no interventions. On the no center line roads near my home, it likes to be toward the middle of the road. When there is an oncoming car, it does start to hug the right shoulder, but it does it at the last minute. A human driver would move over a lot sooner. They claim that is how they want the car to behave, but I disagree. I turn off FSD if there is an oncoming car in that situation. | ||
| Aesquire |
So, you have 2 completely different AI driving programs. Ok, not marketing, but also not normal... And since I'm not a buyer or megafan, I'm not surprised I am ignorant. ( I'm also not a naysayer, don't get me wrong. I haven't bothered to even look at the specs for the new Caddidliacs, I'm not in the market, ditto Tesla. That truck, though.... ) Not that anything Tesla is "normal". Experimental sure seems to apply. So does lazy writers. I'd expect if you were going to write an article you'd do at least as much research as a new owner, maybe even... GASP! look in the manual. | ||
| Hootowl |
It depends on whether you have the fsd beta. The production autopilot software and the fsd beta are different. Although, word on the street is that all cars are running fsd, even if it is not actively controlling the car. They are using the entire fleet to train the ai. The self driving computer is redundant. One runs prod software, the other the beta. It is interesting to see a graphic representation of an intersection on the screen, complete with cars as they traverse the intersection, while waiting at lights. I will post something to youtube and link it. | ||
| Ducbsa |
It is spelled Caddidilacs. Get your hipster slang right! | ||
| Hootowl |
https://youtu.be/1Mjrw9Gd8b8?si=jAZJyVwR7EfGukJ8 This is pretty old. FSD visualizations are no longer in color, just grey and white. Supposed to look cleaner. | ||
| Crusty |
https://i.imgflip.com/89cdd0.gif | ||
| Aesquire |
Ducbsa, I confused it with that family band. Crusty, Obviously fake! The batteries are blue. ( or was that grey? ) I've been concerned FPS games are training killbots. If so, the ones using my Halo games will try and do everything with a pistol. | ||
| Hootowl |
That is funny! | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/12/cop -who-cares.php I'm not a Climate Denier, I'm an Arch Heretic. I believe in religious freedom. Both ways. The Prophet Gore otoh wants Climate Sharia. Involuntary, imposed, tithed, enslaved, universal, perpetual power to the self appointed Elite. Which is the Purpose and Reason for decades of lies, indoctrination, violence, and persecution. Even the UNIPCC admits it's not about science, it's about changing the system. They say economic system but they mean Marxist Sharia, since Economics is just the buzzword used by the college kids back when Marx was first getting high. It's Social this decade. Every penny stolen to pay the rich to pretend to build infrastructure is a penny stolen from cleaning up their pollution. Thus we have the CCP cheering the West wrecking their industrial capabilities while building more coal plants and blackmailing Australia to get the coal. Climate was never the point, just the excuse. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/12/the -spy-who-came-in-for-the-gold.php Lotta money in the Climate Con. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/12/12/usa-today-its- getting-cold-n2390750 | ||
| Hootowl |
They probably have a quota around the number of times they have to blame something on agw. Just doing their job. What do you expect from the national high school newspaper. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2023/12/14/ while-wh-admits-we-still-need-oil-gas-uk-says-you- can-stop-breathing-now-n599134 Told you breathing was a thing they want to tax. In Canada, they're really pushing assisted suicide for people with mental health issues. It would be excessively rude to point out the eugenics aspects of that money saving program applied to Extinction Rebellion & other Induced Depression Insanity Green groups. Is there a metric for gullibility and tendency to believe liars no matter how often they're wrong? That's a number a good eugenics program would seek to reduce. So free access to Canadian way mental health care for Greenies seems... Appropriate & Proportional. Voluntary, of course. Initially. | ||
| Aesquire |
Hoot, I'll point out schadendfreude is not the polite response, to this news, publicly, anyway. Enjoy it all you like, privately. ( joke ) https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/14/gms-cruise-laying- off-900-or-24percent-of-its-workforce.html There's been a lot of discussion about pilot skill and training in the aviation community. And the perils of automation. The Boeing 737 Max problem is still argued about. In short, they put new, more powerful and fuel efficient engines on a well regarded plane. But. The engines are below the Center of gravity, ( the imaginary yet real balance point vertically ) so throttling up makes the plane want to nose up. ( wheelie ) The traditional way to deal with a change in how an airplane works is to revise the manual, and training, so the pilots are aware of the change and know how to deal with it. ( just compensate on the controls, easy ) But the Airlines didn't want to spend money on New training. So they asked for an automatic program to compensate "transparently". i.e. All by itself. Now the engineers at Boeing aren't idiots, so they put in a software button to disengage the automatic anti-wheelie software. And the bean counters made them bury it in a sub menu so the airlines just needed an extra page in the manual to show pilots where to find it, instead of a new manual and extra training. And that would have been ok, except some airlines didn't bother to make the change in training to tell pilots where the button was, when to use it, or why it's there. ( in a nested sub menu no one looks at, normally ) So when airplanes tried to automatically compensate and didn't do it right/perfectly or too much, the pilots fought the controls and they had some fatal crashes. Basically the autopilot took over and the pilots that didn't get the training to compensate for the compensation, didn't. Lawsuits and recalls, and finger pointing followed. Imho, in the old days, the 3 differences between an Airline pilot and a bus driver, are... ( in no particular order ) An extra dimension of movement. That takes a little more talent, maybe. Navigation, in the pre-GPS days, that was a lot of math and constant work. Road maps don't help when you're over the clouds. Airplanes had less automation than cars. Think Model T era fuel mixture and spark advance, set manually, as you drive. When I get in a car, even a 50s classic, that's all automatic. A 90s Cessna has levers, and you can kill the engine with them. When I get a ride in an airplane with electric pitch trim, I look to see where the circuit breaker is to disable it. Just in case it runs away, doesn't stop when you let go of the button. That's a farm tractor simple servo and switch. No computer. Sure, despite the huge number of switches and readouts, a 737 Max is actually easier to fly, than a Cessna 152 trainer, because you have automatic systems. But you have a Much thicker manual to deal with to turn off those systems when they fail. Automobile makers can't count on ANY training to control their products. And even F-22 Raptors don't need, or have, the sensor systems and computing power to taxi from the hangar to the runway, much less avoid other planes on the ground. ( the 3D radar networking systems that let a F-22 shoot down enemy planes and missiles isn't very useful in a car, either ) In any context, Tesla robotic drive systems are impressive. | ||
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| Aesquire |
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/12/15/build-i t-at-great-taxpayer-expense-and-they-will-not-come -n4924764 | ||
| Aesquire |
https://pjmedia.com/benbartee/2023/12/15/study-the -science-pins-climate-change-on-human-breathing-n4 924793 | ||
| Aesquire |
https://instapundit.com/622431/ 8000 year old fortified village. That shows how old war is. Or at least family disputes. The older ruins in modern Turkey show a lot of labor moving big rocks around to make what modern archaeologists consider "a religious site". ( since they can't read the non existent "welcome to Gobekli Tepe, the biggest prank on future fools!" Brochure. ( printed on biodegradable parchment ) And call Everything they find a religious thing ) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe I'm being a little unfair to archeologists, since everyone has a plumbus and knows how to use it, it's so common there's no need for explanation. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/were-told-to-follow- the-science-yet-some-of-it-is-just-plain-wrong/ While the paper that just substituted feminist buzzwords in a Mein Kampf translation will always be a favorite, ( because the so called scholars that approved it were ignorant fools ) the decades of wrong predictions that disprove The Climate Con are pretty solid science. Which is why politicians and the millionaires who bribe them to give them massive amounts of taxpayer's money are the Real Science Deniers. If I predict the stock market wrong, every year for 45 years, nobody sane would claim I created an accurate, scientific system to make money by predictions. Which they do claim for 45 years of wrong predictions about weather. Ironically, if I HAD written a stock market system that reliably wrong, it's actually useful. You could simply place your buys & sells opposite of my predictions. Knowing we aren't going to warm up catastrophically ( because it's proven that their predictions are wrong ) should tell you to invest in insulation and multiple heat sources to prevent freezing to death when the grid collapses. Again. | ||
| Hootowl |
https://youtu.be/MBd0_a7d5Ag?si=vrvFDvu9lIHg-kr2 | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/12/cal l-me-paranoid-but.php Technically, I have read vegetarian ( no meat ) eaters produce more f***s by volume than meat eaters, but with less strong odor Now, that's from Spider Robinson, and he's had hippie commune experience iirc, so I'll accept that as observed fact but also point out observation bias, as changing diets often caused smelling perception changes, and if your f***s are the same diet as those around you, you won't smell them as much. Otoh, meat eating changes the chemistry with more exotic ketones, as anyone, I Assume, has noticed particularly unpleasant smells after eating unfamiliar food. ( the opposite/resultant of getting used to smells, is hypersensitivity to new ones. ) In any case no matter which people vary in greenhouse gas emissions, it's both statistically insignificant to atmospheric levels, and fracking ridiculous to propose taxing your f***s, especially when it's a cult plot to micromanage your diet. Multi cult! Food Karens & Climate Food extremists, hey, you do you. ( although I dislike hearing about dead babies because mom fed them cult/fad food... Education is the only way to prevent that, and in today's cult apocalypse in government ( "you can't criticize vegans, that's Racist! ) ) But demanding others eat like you want them to? By force or by removing products? Big Screw You. That's insane. Nope. Will not obey, cooperate, or pay you. That's a libertarian ideal, but more importantly it's fracking self defense. A Cult Karen might demand you don't eat venison today, but tomorrow it's holy socks or something else, that's Just authoritarian psycho. Otgh.. A Society should have a mechanism to police food safety, and I can understand people wanting us not to kill whales etc. for moral reasons. Arguments about that a culture accepts as food are necessary, not especially easy, and are lacking in sane public discourse. If there is any. | ||
| Ducbsa |
I've read that LRRPs in Vietnam would eat Viet food, so that they wouldn't smell different in the jungle. | ||
| Falloutnl |
"especially when it's a cult plot to micromanage your diet." There is no cult plot to micromanage your diet. I think it's fine to admit that there might be a problem with the emissions of industrial scale agriculture and still be like 'f-kit' I'm going to eat my damn steak. That's totally cool. Starting this culture warring nonsense over the idea that anyone will seriously raise concern over the emissions produced by people in relation to what they eat, is patently ridiculous though. No one wants that. Powerline wants your angry clicks though, that's for sure. | ||
| Crusty |
Oh yes; And ten years ago, nobody in their right mind would have believed that Drag Queen story hour for Kindergardeners was a real possibility. That was something only worried about by Homophobes. | ||
| Falloutnl |
I don't really have any issues with that, but I'm an old school tolerant-to-a-fault Dutchie so I accept that we might have differing opinions on that one lol. If there is anything you guys maybe should, if you want, take away from my saying this is that it's alright to calm down. The left is not as bad as you think they are and neither is the right as bad as some on the left would have you believe. Personally, I think that much of this grief is being fueled by social media, publications (acting on behalf of large corporations) and other bad faith mouthpieces to distract us from the real issue: the fact we're being robbed blind by gargantuan corporate and multinational interests that operate far beyond the scope of national governments (or simply lobby them to death if other means fail). | ||
| Crusty |
You mean Corporations like Pfizer, Lockheed, and Microsoft? Naw; they'd never do that! ...Or somethin'. |
