I have to give it up to that officer he was questioning. He didn't even flinch when a congressman suggested that an island could tip over. Deadpan expression, "we don't anticipate that".
The great trend of “whataboutism” has essentially become one side dismissing a valid argument when the other points out that side has similar issues. It can also be that a side with problems that refuses to deal with those problems deflects by pointing out the other side has those problems.
Sometimes, however, it is very, very valid to point out the comparables on the other side to highlight a lack of intellectual honesty. Sometimes asking “what about” is justified and relevant.
Having had my say on Marjorie Taylor Greene, it is absolutely appropriate now to ask the Democrats about their own side.
They gave Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez a pass on justifying riots.
"I believe injustice is a threat to the safety of all people. Because once you have a group that is marginalized and marginalize and marginalized...once someone doesn't have access to clean water, they have no choice but to riot. And it doesn't have to be that way. I'm not even taking about Palestinians. I'm talking about communities in poverty in the United States; I'm talking about Latin America; I'm talking about all over the world," she said.
Ocasio-Cortez also inspired a man to attack an immigration facility after claiming the United States was running concentration camps at the border. Notice how, after 2018, the kids in detainment facilities were still there, but the shrill rhetoric of concentration camps disappeared.
The media and Democrats gave her a pass on her rhetoric inspiring a violent attack. “But Trump,” they scream.
Maxine Waters encouraged protestors to harass and chase Republicans from restaurants and show up at people’s homes. That very thing happened and the rebuke from the Democratic Party was quite mild. Though multiple news outlets did have to talk about it and push back after President Trump made a stink, the Democrats themselves did nothing.
Democrats ran ads and mail pieces showing Paul Ryan throwing a grandmother off a cliff as they attacked Republican healthcare efforts. Their shrill rhetoric inspired James Hodgkinson to attempt a mass assassination of Republican members of Congress.
No Democrat was censured for their rhetoric. None were stripped of committee assignments. Nancy Pelosi remained as Speaker.
I think the GOP needs to clean up its own house. I think it needs to deal with people like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
But I absolutely understand the reluctance of Republicans to do so. Time and time again the Democrats and media give Democrats a pass on similar things. Yes, in fact, an attack on an ICE facility based on Ocasio-Cortez’s rhetoric is comparable to the mob storming the Capitol. So too is an an attempted mass assassination of Republicans inspired by Democrat rhetoric.
Those of you who decry the GOP and Marjorie Taylor Greene are going to be hard pressed to get a lot of us to care if you demand we clean up our house and make excuses for your own side. This cannot be a one way street or it will be no street at all.
Add in the latest revelations about John Weaver and the Lincoln Project. It turns out John Weaver’s abusive behavior toward young men was well known. Despite this, Democrats and the press used John Weaver to attack Republicans and advance candidates like John Kasich. On MSNBC, even after allegations surfaced, no one bothered to ask Lincoln Project members about it. They gave cover for their friends and allies.
Karl Rove raised the Weaver allegations decades ago and even then the media circled the wagons on Weaver and accused Rove of a smear. They protected Weaver until now, when he is no longer useful.
Sorry folks, but while I may try to be vocal on my own side’s problems, I totally get why a lot don’t bother. There is a recognizable double standard and a lot of people are not interested in constantly dealing with their own side when the other side gets a pass.
So yes, what about the Democrats? It is relevant and Democrats screaming “whataboutism” are just showing they don’t think they have to deal with their own crazy.
If I was manipulating asocial media, and was a Soros/Obama minion, I might decide to get a two-fer and organize another Reichstag Fire False Flag operation like the "Capitol Siege" ( not a siege. Leftists Lie ) to hype up the "anti terrorist" rhetoric, further enabling the dissolution of civil rights.
The bonus would be the elimination of inconvenient terrorist minions so they can't testify against me/my DNC masters, or turn on me/my masters in days to come.
The operation? "Storm" the Vice President residence. Eighth and I. The Marines would leave highly photogenic splatter porn all over the streets. Couldn't ask for a better excuse to ban dissent near the Aristocracy.
I wouldn't do it immediately, Hydra can get a lot more mileage out of the Useful Idiots, they have use for more riots and assaults on my Enemies, and there's little chance of a real investigation into the DNC/Soros/Obama funding & control of the terrorist cells with the current regime. I'd wait until I can get maximum benefit, the "last straw" to declare the suspension of dangerous hate speech, public and online protest, and imposition of Social Control, as pioneered by the CCP Sponsors.
I could be wrong. Marines are not a safe tool for this kind of thing. The regime runners might be smart enough to know that. In that case another target would be the final trigger.
Pwnzor: "Again, with this. Play out your fantasy for me. What, exactly do you expect that the military are going to do?"
Hootowl: "We are not a third world shithole. There is no military option here. Let’s not bring that up again, please."
There's hope amongst many American voters that the military will take action against election fraud. The military is the last line of defense against corruption. Saying that we shouldn't bring up the military option is silly. The military has the duty to defend the constitution. The military option is constitutional.
To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, "America is a Republic, if we can keep it". Guess what, you cannot keep the Republic when election fraud is allowed a foot in the door.
Here is a recent example where the military has stepped in to defend the constitution from fraudulent election by arresting people suspected of election fraud and bringing them to courts. For the military to stand by and do nothing means that the military has failed in its duty to protect the constitution.
If you guys don't want to talk about the military option, then that's unfortunate. I, on the other hand, am not afraid to consider the military option. The military option is a constitutional option, it has nothing to do with being a "third world shithole". As a matter of fact, if you do not consider the military option, then you inevitably end up becoming a third world shithole.
We can learn a thing or two from the Burmese Military in how to defend the constitution and how to deal with election fraud. Without the military option, you end up with a banana republic.
Pwnzor: "Any update on the upcoming military action to remove Biden?"
See the Burmese Military action against election fraud. This isn't to say that the American Military is going to remove Biden, at least not without a fair trial. What is certain is that without some action against election fraud, people will lose faith in the system.
Nope. see the Society of Cincinatti, U.S. military will not interfere in the elected government. It's worked great for over 2 centuries, and this time isn't going to change it.
Hold my peace? Nope, nada, no, screw that. Keep a moderately low profile as the Cancel Purge is ramping up? that's just prudent.
NPR this afternoon has a guy ranting about how millions of Republicans are destroying the evidence that they are mOnsters and Trump Loyalists. Redundant definitions to this guy.
It's increasingly obvious that the Jan. 6 False Flag op at the Capitol is part of a coordinated effort by really evil guys, who will murder anyone who gets in their way, just as the presumed architects of the Feb 27, 1933 operation showed they would.
There are still troops guarding the Capitol, from you. So if the next False Flag op happens there soon, it'll be another inside job. But more likely, in Georgetown.
BTW, what did the suicide note of the Capitol Police officer say? Inquiring minds...
I anticipate escalation. Possibly a murder of an inconvenient or uncooperative staffer.
To be clear, it will be DNC/Hydra/CCP or some combination of their alliance of evil, that commits the crimes to provoke more and more restrictions on freedom in "self defence" against YOU.
The only thing I don't know is exactly who of the multiple logical groups is running things, by their design. Just like I don't know who specifically murdered Epstein.
Evil prevails when good people do nothing. If the military goes along with the non-elected (non-representative) government, then the evil guys have won.
You have to understand, America is the oldest democratic Republic. The Founders were really smart, and watched other countries fail. So the Constitution is designed to avoid the known errors.
Sure, it's in peril, but not for the first, second, or whatever time. If we ever do have a military coup, what's left may have the same flag, but won't be us.
The Jan. 6 capitol (Reichstag Fire) operation was run by rich counter -revolutionary Leftists. Not the American Patriots who gathered to peacefully demonstrate.
Bluntly, "storming the building" didn't happen this time, that's Leftist Propaganda. A small group of paid Nieman-Marxists were let in to create the illusion of a coup attempt.
Patriots wouldn't "Storm the building", anyway. If that did happen, there'd be bodies hanging from the roof, some tossed to their doom, ( The pro Iran faction, as the Mullah's minions toss gays ) and we'd need a new election.
Which the Conservatives would Lose. The backlash against that kind of coup attempt would destroy any chance of winning the hearts and minds of Americans. Anyone sane would understand that. Obviously the people who planned and executed the False Flag operation understood.
We've had stolen elections before. I'm not optimistic this time will pass as calmly as previous years, but if it does go violent, it won't be mass marches of armed idiots on the White House. That's a Left thing.
I actually have ideas, not predictions, on how that might happen, but I'm saving that for a novel. Also I'm not dumb enough to post it to a planetary audience. I know I'm too old and crippled to pretend I'm in a bad Tom Cruise movie. I'm not going Rambo on anyone. And I urge calm in the face of tyranny. Not acceptance, just thoughtful patience.
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2021 - 04:58 pm:
If the election results in Georgia were of particular interest to you, and you're pressed for time, you can scroll down to the red highlighted part and click the link if you so choose.
Jeff Bezos and the Conservative Movement
Erick-Woods Erickson Feb 3
Jeff Bezos is winding down as CEO of Amazon. He turned an operation in his garage into one of the most valuable companies on planet earth. My family gets so much from Amazon each week that the UPS man has been known to stop at our house out of habit with nothing to actually give us.
Bezos will transition to Executive Chairman of the Board, which is an emerging trend in succession plans for companies. (H/t to Daring Fireball for that link)
Companies transitioning from a long-term Chief Executive Officer and involved in CEO succession planning, especially for a company founder or head of a family-owned company, are looking to retain and capitalize on the outgoing CEO’s institutional knowledge while ensuring a smooth transition to the new leader. In response to this need, some creative companies are transitioning their outgoing Chief Executive Officer to the position of Executive Chairman of the Board. The Executive Chairman position allows the organization to leverage the former CEO’s personal client relationships and institutional knowledge while allowing him to retain employee rights and benefits, assist in the transition process, and gradually phase out of CEO responsibilities.
While all of this is going on, a lot of people are linking to this piece by Matthew Walther at The Week in which he says, “Like many observers, including an enormous number of the president's loudest detractors, I believe that Trump brought the conservative movement to an end.”
I actually don’t think that is the case, but I do think Trump has forced some necessary retooling of a movement that, for forty years, has surfed on top the decaying remains of Ronaldus Maximus. It is somewhat hilarious to watch a bunch of conservatives rush to proclaim Donald Trump the greatest president when the man, frankly, left us with no coherent ideas on which to surf — just a nebulous shell called Trumpism from which multiple entities, individuals, and groups will attempt to inhabit and claim some of Trump’s personal appeal — and neither the House or Senate that he had when he arrived on the scene.
Trumpism won’t be successful in so much as Trumpism is about Donald Trump, a mortal being who will die. His cult of personality will then divide and scatter between factions. Some will go with an anti-immigration candidate. Some will go isolationist. Some will go with the guy who is the biggest, grandest bully to replace him. Some candidates will try to inhabit the total package. Some supporters will begin internal purity purges. Time and again we have seen those trying to behave like Trump come off as too manufactured or too crazy. For all his faults, Donald Trump was authentically Trump and Trumpism was tied to him.
Much of the conservative movement will gravitate to bits and pieces of his ideas and some new groups will emerge, some more successful than others. Many will, given those involved, ground themselves in ideas and ideals to give themselves staying power.
That gets me back to Jeff Bezos.
Think of a conservative organization. Think of any conservative organization. Now ask yourself one simple question: what happens to it when the head of it dies?
That is the problem with the movement. It is not so much out of ideas, but it is badly in need of some exlax to get the bowels of the movement unclogged and flush away some of the leadership. Let’s be honest. Some of the conservative movement moved to a full embrace of Trump because of donor agitation and demands. But some of the movement moved to him because it was one last hurrah against what they perceived as a second Reaganite movement against a GOP that had aligned John Anderson, Howard Baker, George H. W. Bush, and Bob Dole against Reagan. This time it was the Bushes, the squishes, and the DC elite.
Like Reagan, Trump beat the establishment and some of the Reagan warriors loved it and loved Trump because of it. They moved their organizations to Trump and got captured in his orbit, for better or worse.
So what happens when they die?
A lot of institutional memory is going to disappear. A lot of donor money will have been wasted. A lot of young conservatives are going to have to land somewhere.
I don’t think the conservative movement is dead. I do think it is finally time for the old guard to start putting their retirement plans and transitions in order — follow Bezos and make it about the survival of the institution and business and not the ego of the man or his access to power.
The conservative movement does need a swift kick in the ass. They’ve largely won on tax cuts, judges, and life. Now, what about technology? There’s a real and healthy fight within the movement over Section 230 of the Communications Act. What about woke culture and cancel culture and progressivism? What about marijuana legalization? What about intersectionalism and critical theory and indoctrination of our youth? What about getting conservative back on campuses instead of ceding the ground and abandoning the academic institutions of America? What about putting Main Street ahead of Wall Street?
A healthy conservatism is going to be one that embeds a lot of people in existing cultural institutions instead of abandoning ship and trying to build half-assed competition. Many conservatives have internalized that progressive cultural ascendency means the right will be assigned to a cultural ghetto. Perhaps, but that is no reason to give up the fight and the attempted incursion.
One of the worst things to come out of the Trump era is the increasing embrace of the theory that the left cheated their way to victory in 2020 and will now never leave. It is premised on lies and defeatist in result — just look at the Georgia Senate runoffs. We know today that 750,000 total voters stayed home and more than half were Republican.
Over 752,000 Georgia voters who cast ballots in the presidential election didn’t show up again for the runoffs just two months later, according to a new analysis by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution of recently released voting records.
More than half of the no-shows were white, and many lived in rural areas, constituencies that lean toward Republican candidates.
The defeatist attitude defeated the GOP in the Senate. Republicans did it to themselves because they embraced a self-destructive lie. Many of them are still dogmatically convinced there is no way they could have won a runoff where one Democrat won by just 52,000 votes and 400,000 Republicans sat it out and never even tried.
Conservative institutions are going to need to be based in reality and unafraid to speak up. They’re going to need to get away from the tables of power and stop being held hostage by their donors. Right now, frankly, a lot of the right will speak up, but too many yell in off-putting ways and spew alternative realities derived down rabbit holes filled with bat poop levels of crazy.
Too many younger conservatives have decided they are for what the left is against. It is predictable and depressing to know, intuitively, which blue checkmarks on Twitter will defend Marjorie Taylor Greene solely because of who is attacking her. David Duke undoubtedly arrived too early in the twentieth century. Today, he’d get certain blue check marked conservatives supporting him solely because the GOP establishment and left would, rightly, denounce him.
There is a bit of intellectual dumbassery the leaders of the conservative movement are going to have to turn their backs on in order to move forward.
Bring back the happy warriors, return to reality, commit to cleaning up your own side, and make conservatism great again by grounding it in ideas, not people.
PS — I have long maintained that Bill Clinton was the most destructive force the conservative movement had ever seen. By blowing up the Democratic Party in 1994 and shifting so much of his party to the GOP, the conservative movement lost the need to reach out across the aisle and build bipartisan ideas with conservative Democrats. Having lost the need to reach across the aisle, the conservative movement lost the skill to reach across the aisle. One thing Donald Trump has done, conversely, is show there really are black and Hispanic voters who like some of his ideas. They may not become Republican, but they are conservative and conservatives need to rebuild the skill of working across the aisle with intellectual fellow travelers who have a different letter next to their name. Donald Trump actually provided an issues based path to start doing that again and much of it within the cultural landscape wherein conservatism thrives.
Patrick, the ship of Conservatism hit an iceberg in 2016. Abandon ship. There are other ships, better ships than Conservatism.
Conservatism (along with Progressivism/Liberalism) has been a psychological operation to subvert American Patriotism and the America First movement.
The proof of this is found when we look at how many war presidents Conservatism has produced. You need to go back way back in time to find a president that did not start wars.
Donald Trump, to his credit, did not start any wars. But then again, Donald Trump was not part of the Conservative party, he was his own party. He didn't get rid of the Swamp, but he did remove their masks. That counts for something.
America is a Republic, on paper. In reality, America is an oligarchy where one dollar equals one vote.
Democracy is lipstick on a pig at this point. There is no saving grace left to Democracy, it is a currency that has lost its value. Democracy means nothing when there is no representative government.
Coming back to the military option, it is not a coup d'etat when it is in accordance with the constitution. The founding fathers made use of the military option at times. We shouldn't confuse a military option with a coup, they're two different things.
You've made quite a few definitive statements over the past several weeks. Including but not limited to Trump being inaugurated instead of Biden, and followed by the military is going to install Trump or something to that effect.
You need to catch up, Matthew. The show has already started. But a better way to phrase it is that the show never ended. If you are waiting for the grand finale, you will be disappointed.
Isn't there someone else who comes first that foolish will worship as the second coming?
I saw it in a Steven King novel. The virus there came from a lab, check, killed a bunch, check, survivors isolated and terrorized, check, followers of the Antichrist burning and partying while wearing Mad Max chic, check...
99.969%? So, there IS hope? ( quote from some movie )
I'm pointing out the parallels between the Fictional End Times and where we are now. Not implying that the CCP Coronavirus Biological War 2019 attack is as bad as Captain Trips.
Wait till we see what they already unleashed last year. If we're lucky, the death toll will be hidden by the attention to CCP Plague '19, just like the Flu. ( if it's not the flu itself )
I will point out that's an unusually precise number considering the uncertainty level of the data.
Perhaps instead of King, I should reference Ringo, who's bio-plague novels posit a long mild flu-like spread time before the SHTF.
Don't know how you'd detect that? Unusually mild flu death rate?
What is important to the threat topic, is the current Occupants in D.C. are not going to slow any new Chinese virus, or any new mutations from Africa, by restricting travel & immigration from danger zones.
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