| Author | Message | ||
     Biknut |
The National Earthquake Information Center (NEIC) tuesday's prediction: landslides all over the country. | ||
| Doughnut |
Go Nader!  | ||
| Outrider |
Where is Pat Paulson when you need him most??? | ||
| Bcordb3 |
Are any of the candidates Buelligans? | ||
| Outrider |
Are any of the candidates Buelligans? I wish! At least then I would know more about them and what they really stand for. | ||
| Biknut |
what's that shakin??? | ||
| Biknut |
GAME OVER!!! BUSH WINS!!! largest popular vote in history. it's safe to ride your buell now. | ||
| Iamike |
Let's see if the opposition shows some maturity this time around and quit tearing down a duly elected (twice) leader. All of their lies about Florida last time and the millions spent this time around just P.O.d people that much more. | ||
| Bomber |
Not sure about the largest popular vote in history (at least, not as measured by a % of the voters), but he did win, and Kerry conceded, so it does appear to be game over | ||
| Buellkowski |
Four more years? More, your fears. >sigh< Congratulations, Mr. President. | ||
| Hootowl |
It was the highest in raw numbers in history. He also garnered more than 50% of the vote, which hasn't happened since 1988 when his old man won. Even as popular as Clinton was, he never got more than 50% of the vote. All in all, a good day for GW. And for me.  | ||
| Bomber |
Buellkow -- agreed, congratulations, Mr President. it was good to see the large turnout, but I am at a losse to explain why we don't get 90% of the eligeble voters to show up every time -- to quote Yul Brenner "it's a puzzlement!" | ||
| Blake |
Hoot, The Clinton "popularity" is a myth. He was popular in the blue states and the blue media, big surprise. What was popular was the booming economy, until it receded. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
www.hannity.com has a most revealing look at a county by county view -- a sea of red. Awesome. | ||
| Biknut |
the american voters won. i love the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! i'm so proud of florida and ohio voters. i'm a texan now but i was born in nelsonville ohio and i'm proud of it. | ||
| Xbduck |
O.K., O.K., I have tried not to get into this even after all of the posts I have lurked over that put my shorts in a bunch. I however must point out to those here who believe that the largest raw number score of votes is a big thing that, population in this country is still climbing. So, as long as population continues to increase it will take more people (votes) to elect the next president, provided we still use the 2 party system, etc., etc. No, I don't want to discuss it, I just thought I would try playing Capt'n Obvious on this one. Sorry if I bunched anyones shorts. | ||
| Biknut |
i did a little checking. apparently it wasn't the all time highest PERCENTAGE of eligible voter turnout. it was the highest percentage of voter turnout since 1968. about 60% turnout this time nationally. in 92 55% and in 96 less than 50% turnout. | ||
| Blake |
Howard (XBduck), Good point. Best thing about the result is that it is the first time in sixteen years that we will have a President who has won a majority of the vote. | ||
| Xbduck |
Blake, That is true, whether you like him or not at least he did get a majority vote. Democracy in action! P.S. for those out there who believe that they have the right to rub this in 'cause G.W. won. Please remember "Do unto other as you would have done unto you" or something like that. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
I made myself, and those around me, that I'd not be rubbing it in. I will continue to honor that promise, but I sure do wish someone would tell Al Franken, and Air America, to shut up and move on. The conspiracy theories are wearing a bit thin. (yea, I don't have to listen to them, but it's so much fun  ) | ||
| Biknut |
i think it's funny that out of all the leaders of the world, putin has it right. By Andrew Hurst and Paolo Biondi REUTERS 8:27 a.m. November 3, 2004 MOSCOW – Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday welcomed a victory for George W. Bush in the U.S. presidential race, saying it meant Americans had not allowed themselves to be cowed by terrorists. amen to that! | ||
| Brucelee |
Buellkow -- agreed, congratulations, Mr President. "it was good to see the large turnout, but I am at a losse to explain why we don't get 90% of the eligeble voters to show up every time -- to quote Yul Brenner "it's a puzzlement!" I too think this election was more involving for the average citizen and that more of us took an effort to know the candidates and issues. I know that I did and it was energizing. Having said that, the higher voting totals are not without a downside. Simply put, I have talked to scores of would be voters who were woefully ignorant of the candidates and issues. Many had no idea where they were to vote and how the voting would be carried out (the mechanics). This is concerning. It well may be, that it is better if those who are too lazy to understand the process and to make educated decisions, simply stay home and let the rest of us make these choices. So, as we drive to make it easier to vote and resort to busing would-be voters to the polls, we may not be doing the republic much good, perhaps harm. One man's observation. | ||
| Bomber |
Lee -- you are likely right -- it seems to be a self-correcting system, which does certainly have it's valules the lack of interest, then, since we're counting anlges on pin-heads, confuses me -- I still don't get why someone would NOT want to get informed and act -- | ||
| Biknut |
one time i served on a condominium board for 14 years. each year we had a election and out of 99 homeowners only about 30 ever voted, sometimes less. the only time more would vote was if there was a hot button issue. i think this election was like that. | ||
| Biknut |
for the most part, more of the people that vote that have no clue are democrats. kerry told us that he had a plan for everything, but he never said what that plan was, so if you voted for him you either just blindly believed him or you just voted against bush. bush backers knew where bush stands. more people could trust him. | ||
| Outrider |
I have talked to scores of would be voters who were woefully ignorant of the candidates and issues. Many had no idea where they were to vote and how the voting would be carried out (the mechanics). Sad, but true. Then again, if they read the newspaper or watched the local News on TV, they either would know where to either go to vote or at least get a hint concerning who to call for the information. Oh Gee, I forgot...They could ask around the neighborhood as well. Duh... Now tell me, if they don't know the candidates, the issues, and where to vote, are they really qualified voters? My experience out there is simply the party that promises the most in financial aid is the one that gets voted for. Not to mention that Arnold got elected by the few that cared and could find their way to the polls. Bruce...Left the Peoples Republik of California five years ago and am interested in how many languages they are printing the pre-election materials and ballots in now? Also, have they ever figured out how to write up the propositions and the summary on both the pre-election info and on the ballot where a Yes vote means Yes I want that. I seem to recall in the majority of instances a "Yes" vote meant "Yes, I don't want that." Then again that was subject to change depending on which party drafted the proposition. LOL Just a little Midwestern sarcasm from a guy that lived out there for 30 years and would only return for the weather and the surf. LOL | ||
| Hootowl |
"I however must point out to those here who believe that the largest raw number score of votes is a big thing that, population in this country is still climbing." Very true, which is why the "raw number" distinction was made. | ||
| Biknut |
forget raw numbers. bush just got a larger percentage of the vote than JFK! | ||
| Brucelee |
"bush backers knew where bush stands. more people could trust him" I think that is very true! | ||
| Brucelee |
"Bruce...Left the Peoples Republik of California five years ago and am interested in how many languages they are printing the pre-election materials and ballots in now? Also, have they ever figured out how to write up the propositions and the summary on both the pre-election info and on the ballot where a Yes vote means Yes I want that. I seem to recall in the majority of instances a "Yes" vote meant "Yes, I don't want that." Then again that was subject to change depending on which party drafted the proposition. LOL " Lets see-- So far we do English (still), Espanol, Vietnamese and one I can't fathom! The props do take some time to understand. Yes, they still can make a yes mean a no. The Sec of State's website is excellent for studying the Props in detail. Not sure how many folks actually access this resource. Glad I am in San Diego and not up there in the San Fran area. Something in the air? BTW- I moved from the Soviet Republic of Massachusetts to here. What the hell is wrong with ME? | ||
| Outrider |
Bruce...Nothing wrong with you. I was in South Orange County all those years. You're just fine. If you want to meet some like minded folks up that way, let me know. We did dinner up to six nights a week and quite a few of them could make Rush look like a full blown Liberal. I may be a conservative, but those folks are a little too much for me to handle. LOL | ||
| Tom_b |
Several media sources on election night said the reason Bush didin't just kick the crap out of Kerry and get more of the popular vote was the war in Iraq. A lot of people are uncomfortable about it. And the "great JFK" wouldn't have even been elected if his father hadn't used a LOT of influence to get votes. Especially in Illinois and New York and Mass. | ||
| Brucelee |
"And the "great JFK" wouldn't have even been elected if his father hadn't used a LOT of influence to get votes. Especially in Illinois and New York and Mass." Yes, and as I remember it, there was a study done post election that detailed the MASSIVE voter fraud at the hands of Richard Daley. Seems Nixon actually carried the state and won the election. Hmmm, now that couldn't have been THAT JFK? | ||
| Biknut |
guess who's glad bush won the election? college students in iran! also the people of iraq. | ||
| Outrider |
The Kennedy family is living proof that criminals and their families can attain public office. LMAO If Old Joe had been busted in his Rum Running Days during Prohibition, he would have been a felon. Pretty easy to assume he bribed his way out of any responsibility for his actions considering how well known his activities were at the time. Imagine the same held true for Jack, Bobby and Ted in their little escapades.  | ||
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| Burnmyheartdown |
Just to throw in a more liberal view, someone critcized Kerry for not stating what his plan was. What about Bush's war on terror? Started in Afghanistan focused on bin Laden (still at large 3 years later) and ends in Iraq focusing on liberating these people who have been rooten in their society longer than the United States has even existed? Also, with research you can very easily find out what Kerry's plan was, it was all online at johnkerry.com if you looked, which, being the educated voters we all are I'm sure we did right? Two sides to everything guys, I'm independent, not a democrat, but I'm sure this is going to get bashed anyway so go ahead...not arguing, just illustrating how our arguements can sometimes be based on fallacy. | ||
| Mikej |
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