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Whodom
Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know I've read the recommended procedure here several times, but dang if I can find it this morning. I managed to run my 2000 S3 out of gas Monday afternoon (engine finally died as I coasted into a gas station).

IIRC I was supposed to ride the bike at constant speed/throttle for a couple of minutes to let the computer recalibrate the fuel injection. I maintained ~3000 RPM for probably 5 minutes. Is that close enough?

I don't notice any problems, I just want to make sure I did it right.

TIA,
Hugh
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Dsergison
Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

put gas in : )

that procedure will let the computer remap. but so will running out of gas. they both have the same effect.

so just add gas and flog the crap out of it. then it will learn to run like you flog the crap out of it all the time.

I wish you had to push a button or something. I hate how my ignition remaps on my commute to work in the morning. then I runs like a pooch forevermore. : (

what a lousy situation.
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Outrider
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whodom...I recollect reading something about riding 10 minutes at 4,000 RPM.
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Iamike
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh,
Did it happen because you thought that you had 0.4 gallons more gas? That's what happened to me. Every time I filled up after getting the low fuel light I'd only be able to put in 4.6-4.7 gallons so I assumed the light was comiing on early. One day as I left work it came on and I figured "Hey, I've got 0.8 left, I can make it the 20 miles home."
I didn't quite make it to the station so now I figure I just have a 5 gallon tank.
Once in awhile mine also gets out of whack but doesn't smooth out until after I stop and then go again. I can tell because it runs a little rough and then the next time it is real smooth.
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Ray_maines
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't suppose anybody wants to hear what I think of a person who runs out of gas with money in their pocket?
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Buelliedan
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You did it correct by running it on a long strecth of road at 2500-3000 rpms. If you take it up to 4,000 as somebody else said it will not reset. As long as it is running correctly you are fine. You will definately know if the computer hasn't reset as it will run like total crap!!
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

other than running out of gas, is the FI computer otherwise always learning and adjusting? what goes on "inside the box"?
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Outrider
Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buelliedan...Thanks for clarifying the RPM thing. Thought I read it that way, but it must have been a senior moment.
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4000 rpm is open loop. you dont have to do anything real special, just ride the bike, with fuel in it, get it good and warmed up. ECM is pretty smart.
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Whodom
Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info guys. I had spent all weekend in the hospital with my Dad, got home mid-day Monday and decided to go for a short ride, which I had plenty of fuel for. Weather was gorgeous, and I soon found that every time I had a chance to take a backroad turn towards home, I took the opposite path. ~10 miles from last gas station, low fuel light comes on. I think "I'm sure there's a filling station up here in about 10 miles, I'll be alright". Get there, the little country store hasn't sold gas since it was $1.50/gallon. "Oh crap". Turn towards the next small town, ~15 miles away, hoping I'll see a station before I get there. By the time I hit the town limits, the S3 was sputtering and coughing, I was weaving side to side to get the last gas molecules into the pump, and it finally died. I coasted into the first station I saw with the clutch in and the engine dead. Tank held ~4.98 gallons. I figure I had VERY close to 0.4 gallons left when the light came on.

That's the second time in my life I've run out of gas, the first time ever on a bike, and the first time in ~20 years on anything.

IMPORTANT SAFETY TIP TO SELF: PAY ATTENTION TO TRIP ODOMETER!

(Message edited by whodom on November 08, 2004)
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going over a bride on my FZR while on reserve and wouldn't you know it, ran out of gas. Coasted down the bridge hoping to make it to the gas station up ahead only to run 200 feet from it. That little bike get heavy over time pushing it.
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)

Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going over a bride on my FZR
And her husband didnt mind??: D
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Cmodtopgun
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same thing happened to me Sunday. The drill is to ride between 2,500 and 3,000 in 5th gear for a mile, I usually go 1.2 miles to make sure I don't have a rounding error

(Message edited by cmodtopgun on November 10, 2004)
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn!!! I hate misspelling words. I gotta start proof reading more.

BTW Dyna, yeah, he was more than happy to let me break her in.
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