| Author | Message | ||
     Ingemar |
Searched high and low for this. A dyno of an xb9 with FAST system, good pipe like a Drummer and race ecm/TFI/PC3. I simply can't believe the Hillbilly dyno's with the Jardine pipe getting over 90 hp. Geez there's guys out there with a 1050+stage 3 heads hardly get in the mid 90's. Take a drummer dyno and add 6hp on top and you come nowhere near the 90+ from Hillbilly. Any thoughts? | ||
| Glitch |
Any thoughts? All dynos are different. I try to look at the curve more than the numbers. Nice flat torque curve = nice power delivery. I take it you've seen this already. | ||
| Oconnor |
And this: http://www.locost7.info/converter.php Hillbilly is posting in Ps. Everyone else posts in Hp. Its not a huge drop in number but it may help. Hey glitch how did you get your link in the word "this"? Thanks The computer unsavy jarhead. | ||
| Ingemar |
Glitch, yes those are the dyno's I'm referring to. I can't believe this:  OConnor, Yeah, I am aware of the PS/HP. Thanx for the link though 'cos I am constantly looking for something like that. Very useful to have all that on one page. 94.7PS is still 93.4HP. Way too optimistic for an XB9 if you ask me, and that's why I'm asking for other dyno's. Now if they ALL look like that, I KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING NEXT!! | ||
| Ingemar |
... how did you get your link in the word "this"? use \ link { the_url , link description } Remove all the spaces from the above example. Look here for more info on using tags.  | ||
| Oconnor |
Thanks, I think I will stick to This Let you guys work your magic. That page started to give me a headache. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Ingemar, what you need to do is compare each of the charts Hillbilly has listed. If you notice on their Dyno the stock XB9 is making 84.3PS so they are showing a 10PS difference from stock, which IS feasable with a good exhaust and intake combo. Notice below that there is a 6PS increase in just using the FAST system from their stock bike run.   | ||
| M1combat |
Well, not to make anyone mad... I would also assume that they took a low dyno from the stock bike and a high dyno everywhere else. That's fine by me, I would just expect about 3-4 less HP than they advertise. If I got the full amount, I'd just be pleasantly surprised is all. Whether they do that or not... The dyno that comes out with the curve you want (as long as you don't sacrifice too much anywhere) is the one to get. I agree that the Jardine/FAST combo does indeed look good. I would really like to see D&D and Drummer dyno's done by hillbilly on the same dyno so I could compare those curves. I think you would find you lose a couple at the top with the drummer but have a good deal more down low. IMO, better street pipe will have the power down low. I have no interest in killing my engine by trying to keep it on the pipe all the time... I'll get a pipe that is "on the bike" the way I ride it. I think that's the Drummer. | ||
| Tucsonxb9s |
M1...don't forget your looking at dynos for a 9. I think the 12's stock set up breathes a lot better than the 9's and so it's been easier to see bigger gains for the 9. We'll see how the ole butt dyno does for me tomorrow. (Getting the Jardine installed today!) | ||
| M1combat |
Understood... I don't mean to call into question anyones reputation or anything, but if it's possible, I will assume they do it and if they don't, I'll be pleasantly surprised  . Good luck with the Jardine . I'll have to ride down there and hear it at some point. | ||
| Blake |
They didn't run to redline (7,500 rpm). | ||
| Dscak |
M1, Have a 04 XB12S. With a race ECM, K&N Filter and Drummer, I got essentially the same numbers on the Dyno both in HP and Torque as with the Race ECM, Drummer and FAST intake. I am referring to both the curves and to the top end numbers. With either I have no hole in the torque curve in midrange, but slight losses as compared to stock configuration in HP on top end. Note this is on a 12, with approx 4700 miles on the clock. Dan | ||
| Jocke |
There is a free convert-software that I use. You can pick it up at http://www.joshmadison.com/software/convert/ | ||
| Ingemar |
So do we agree then that a xb9 with a good pipe, race ecm and FAST intake system is able to make in the 90's? I really find that hard to believe. A Nallin 1050 kit with stage 3 heads typically makes 93-95hp. Anyway, I'll probably get the FAST setup next year after the holiday season. It's cheap for the power it makes, even it's a "mere" 4 hp. But 6 would be really cool though ...  | ||
| Glitch |
Dscak, the Drummer may be holding you back. I know of a few XB12s that have either lost HP and torque or saw no gains at all. This has only been seen on the XB12s. Ingemar, 90HP is my goal for my bike. Been thinking of the most simple way to get there. So do we agree then that a xb9... In reality, I don't think an ECM, a pipe and intake mod will give 90HP at the rear wheel. If that was the case all of us would have 90HP and NRHS would go out of business. | ||
| Dscak |
Glitch, I have been considering that perhaps the pipe could be the culprit as well. May try another pipe this winter (can't ride, too much snow & ice) and see what results I get. Any info on others with 12's that have used other pipes with better results? | ||
| Naughtynurse |
Dscak I have had the Drummer on my 12 and it did improve it.It seemed to wind up quicker.I then got bored and wanted more noise so I went out and got a D&D and it barks.My butt dyno says it kicks the Drummers arse.I haven't been on a dyno with it yet but I can tell ya it rocks. | ||
| BadS1 |
Oooops the wife logged on to my desk top again.Sorry!!! | ||
| Daves |
We have a dyno! Actually, we have 2 of them. Bring your bike up! | ||
| BadS1 |
Dave maybe when I buy the new Honda Element in a couple weeks I'll throw it i the back and take you up on that.Whats it gonna cost me to run it??? | ||
| Daves |
Depends on what time of day we do it! Dave | ||
| BadS1 |
AHHHH!!! I gotcha there.Email me with some details??? | ||
| Daves |
I just need to make sure Terry can stay late and play with us. His wife and family live in Mn so he's in the same boat as me. He knows a thing or two about making bikes run! He has worked for Tilley's and HMC. | ||
| BadS1 |
Oh yeah!!! Let me know cause it'll be a ROAD TRIP!!!!Maybe I'll get Dyna or Griz to come along for the ride.Bring ya some Diet Pepsi or something. | ||
| Bigdaddy  |
Hey BadS1, Just in case you ever need to know this :-) Bounced the front of my Element off the back of a very large Chrysler Newport, circa 1970, and the Element lost. Christmas Eve, going to work, not paying attention, listening to some serious Muddy Waters on my XM and BAM. Stopped by the local Honda dealer and picked up a new front bumper (the great big plastic bra thing.) I got one with a very small scratch in it for $100.00. Installation was a snap, no, literally a snap, 4 bolts, 2 screws, about 500 two-piece 'clips.' Total replacement time was 1 hour. |
