| Author | Message | ||
     Soywesley |
Hi people, Im are new in the BW. last week I bay a front rotor for my buell Lightning x1 2000 in amazon (EBC), today I tried to Place and don't fit. the origin I have is flat and 13 inches and the rotor arrive is concave and 13.4 inches. please is anyone can help my. thanks | ||
| 651lance |
All 1995-2002 front OEM rotors are interchangeable and should be 13.4" | ||
| Soywesley |
ok 651lance thanks but why don't fit in the x1 i have ? and why is different to the I have 13 inches and flat?thnks | ||
| 651lance |
What calipers is the bike running? Post picture of the caliper and the two rotors. What is the part number of the rotor? | ||
| Soywesley |
the calipers is working good, the rotor I have is 13 inches and tne new is 13.4, donT fit. the part number is missing  | ||
| Ralph |
That is NOT an original disc. I don't recognize it either. Looks Ducati'ish. The caliper is stock (obviously). Perhaps the caliper has spacers installed to move it in to fit the disc that is on the bike now. Welcome to BadWeb. | ||
| 1313 |
That rotor looks awfully similar to this one... Based on what we learned about that S2T, what does the wheel on your X1 look like (and how many bolts hold the carrier to the wheel)? 1313 | ||
| S1owner |
A better pucture in the light so we can see the entire wheel would help. And a close up with how the. Aliper is installed. | ||
| 651lance |
If you look at the rotor braking area the pad are using it nor far enough in for the to be the correct rotor. Look at your brake pads and you might find that the pad isn't being completely used on the outside edge. You need new pads to go with the new rotor. There should be a manufacturer part number on the rotor package. | ||
| Buelldualsport |
Just a shot in the dark, but I would wager that the EBC rotor is not for a tube buell The part number can be cross referenced with the EBC catalog GL | ||
| Buelldualsport |
Morning Lance | ||
| Upthemaiden |
I agree it sounds like you either have.... 1: a different front wheel that has spaced the rotor out farther 2: some kind of spacer behind your rotor that spaced it out farther 3: some kind of spacers between your brake caliper and fork mounts to move it over to fit the flat rotor. 4: Someone modified/replaced your axle spacers so your front wheel is riding further to the right than it should. Obviously #2 or #3 would be ideal because you could just remove the spacers. If it's #1, you're going to either need to find the correct front wheel, or you're going to need to find a front rotor that happens to be flat, 13.4", and has the same bolt circle and pattern as your wheel. If it's #4, you should be able to tell just by looking at the bike from the front too see if it's evenly spaced between the fender. If this was the case you'd need to get some new spacers. You're going to need new brake pads regardless because if you put in a 13.4" rotor on now, only the last .4" will be squeezed by those current pads. Based on the tiny bit of the wheel spoke I can see in the picture, it looks like a Buell wheel, but it's hard to say... (Message edited by upthemaiden on January 03, 2017) | ||
| Upthemaiden |
This is what the correct EBC rotor should look like.  | ||
| Soywesley |
hi people, this rotor have a 5 bolts, the first one I bay is this EBC Brakes MD719RS Brake Rotor and today im go to bay EBC Brakes MD734RS Brake Rotor. I call to EBC and office guy tell my this is the replacement, | ||
| 651lance |
I don't think the problem is with your new rotor, it's the one currently on your bike. The EBC part number is MD719RS and it should be 13.4" The rotor on your bike is most likely 13". I can see on the the rotor that is on your bike an old brake pad wear line on the inside edge. The person before you found the incorrect rotor and slapped it on the bike to send it down the road. You need to also replace your brake pads do to the incorrect rotor being on the bike. We need more pictures of the caliper, the mounting of the caliper, over all of the wheel and the mounting of the rotor to the wheel. | ||
| Upthemaiden |
I looked up the new part number in Amazon, it says it would fit my 97 S1, which means it would fit a 2000 X1. The only problem is the new rotor(MD734RS) is going to have the same dimensions as the old one(MD719RS), so you're going to be in the same position when it comes. You need to figure out what's going on with your wheel/caliper spacing first. Your other option is just to call EBC with the exact measurements and information on your current rotor and see if they can match it up with another one they sell. | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
IMO do not try to replace what you have with something similar. It is the wrong part put on the bike by someone who either couldn't find the right part, couldn't afford the right part, or had the wrong part lying around and made it fit. Not to be harsh, but either fix it correctly with a 13.4" rotor, new pads and new spacers (or whatever it takes to bring it back to what the Buell engineers designed) or park the POS because it is unsafe for the road. | ||
| 651lance |
That was my thought but didn't want to be the first to say it.  | ||
| Al_lighton |
MD719RS and MD734RS are identical EXCEPT the 734 has the same counterbore as the 2000 spec Buell rotors, and the MD719RS has the countersink of the 99 and prior rotors. All late model 734RS rotors are stainless blade. But I THINK that early 734RS rotors were not stainless. Not sure about the 719RS. All that I ever saw were not stainless, but we stopped carrying the 719RS once I found out about the 734RS. I'd personally only mount the 734RS. But as someone already said, if there is a fit issue with one, it will be there with the other as well. They are the same size and have the same offset, and are interchangeable with the correct bolts used. If there is a fit problem, something else is screwed up. | ||
| Dannybuell |
Happy New Year Al!! Wishing You Nothing But The BEST!!! | ||
| 46champ |
Hi Al glade to see you here. Hope things are going great. | ||
| Hootowl |
+1. Good to hear from you Al. Glad you're still around to set us all straight. | ||
| Al_lighton |
thanks all. I check in at least once a week or so here, but I don't check it daily like I used to. All is well, just rolled 50K on the Uly-R and still have the S1W. Still active in SCAB (SoCal area Buellers). The EBC rotor is a good deal relative to the others that were/are available (Ferodo, Braking, OEM). I didn't used to recommend it highly when it had a plain steel blade, but once it went stainless, its the way to go. If I was putting a front rotor on my own tuber, the EBC 734RS would be the one I'd get. | ||
| Buelldualsport |
Thanks Al Good to hear from you | ||
| Soywesley |
hi people, second rotor don't fit. I start to think the only solution is bay the replacement in HD 300 dollars in ebay. refer H0201.r 13 inches but I need to know is compatible, please im need help. thanks | ||
| Al_lighton |
You aren't listening to what you've been told here. The rotor that was on your bike is NOT the OEM rotor. Someone changed something about the spacing of the caliper mount or wheel spacing to the fork to make that rotor kind of work. The EBC rotors and the OEM rotor are dimensionally the same . If the EBC rotors don't fit, then neither will the OEM rotor. You need to undo whatever modification someone did to the caliper mount to make the EBC rotor work. You haven't provided any other photos. No one here can help you any further unless you do. Re-Read the Upthemaidens and scott_in_nh posts. If you don't understand them, take the bike to someone that does. If you don't know of anyone in LA that can help you, bring it to Jacob and Sarah at MotoEnthusiasts in Vista (north county san diego). | ||
| 34nineteen |
Al is the man. He has helped me out of more than one problem in the past! He knows his stuff and will not steer you wrong. and... Hey Al! Hope all is going well for you! | ||
| Buelldualsport |
Al has provided you with spot on advice You came to this Group for input You seem to have chosen not to listen to the advice you have requested Rather a loose loose proposition for everyone Good luck | ||
| Dino1 |
So are we thinking he has a Ducati front wheel? | ||
| Harleyelf |
The rotor must be flat to the wheel. The caliper's position is fixed by the fork tube. The wheel's position is fixed upon the axle by spacers. If no one has ground any metal away from your wheel, it can be restored to the stock position by replacing the spacers with OEM parts. Any competent bike-build shop with a lathe can make spacers to custom size. The caliper has pistons on both shoes, so the rotor must be centered in the slot. DO NOT attempt to space the rotor out with washers or by grinding the wheel. Throw the rotor, spacers, and pads now on the bike away before they kill you. Read the book so you know how to properly torque the axle without stressing the forks. | ||
| Court |
I also suspect there is a bit of a language barrier . . . let's see if we can establish proper communications and sort this out. I do not think he's being "unhearing" . . I suspect we just have a comm link weakness. Anybody near that can help? | ||
| Soywesley |
thanks people. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I'll try to simplify. You bought the bike with the wrong rotor. DO NOT put another one of those on, it is not safe. You are getting the RIGHT rotors from EBC. You need to look at what is causing them to fit wrong, and fix that too. Things were changed on the bike before you bought it. Now is time to make those things right again. New EBC rotor, new brake pads, look carefully at rotor and caliper mounts. Post GOOD photos if you have questions, we can help. |
