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Panshovevo
| Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 01:17 pm: |
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Figured I'd start a new thread rather than walk all over the other even more.
quote: Froggy MrSuperbuckets claims to have put a Harley big twin into a XB.
Thanks Froggy. Anyone seen any pics? MrSuperbuckets still on the board? |
Brother_in_buells
| Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 02:13 pm: |
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He somewhere wrote that he didn't took pictures! |
Panshovevo
| Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 06:52 pm: |
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quote: He somewhere wrote that he didn't took pictures!
That's unusual... |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 07:04 pm: |
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Here are his posts
quote:my xb12s had some.....extensive modifications, When i was done it was more of a xb17s I pulled out the thunderstorm engine, found a engine from a fatboy and basically forged my own cams, connecting rods, cylinder heads, pistons, and a custom fuel injection system, and a ecm that I programed myself. but after i did all that i just wanted to see how much hp and more importantly torque that my custom engine made. i got it dyno'd before the engine swap and it made 111 if i remember correctly, and after it made 132 hp and 178ft/lb of torque.......lets just say there is a reason that bike got wrapped around a tree. it took me about 2 years from start to finish with that project between work and my home life. i used it for drag racing and that was about it. sadly that stupid tree jumped out in front of me!
quote:i lost that bike last year to a tree,i had a iphone "the original" and lets just say the phone didn't make it, and i didnt have itunes, so if you want to say im lying i dont blame you,I have no evidence but i will search and try to find a picture of the build
quote:I had to extend the bike 9 inches just so the front wheel wouldn't be in the air all the time.... That bike was my pride and joy but as we all know trees are very dangerous and they all voted for obama!
quote:The fatboy motor didnt "fit" i had to mount it at a 7 degree angle to get it to fit which made it a massive pain in the ass to make the parts for the transmission and had to make a custom pulley set for drag racing to handle all the torque. The rear sprocket had 90 teeth if i remember correctly,and all the damn brackets so the engine would stay in the bike and not just fall out. Also i only did drag racing so its not like it was driven on the street more than 100 miles but god damn did shit go wrong in a 100 miles..
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?290431/746162 |
Figorvonbuellingham
| Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 08:19 pm: |
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I seem to recall seeing one on youtube but I think it was in an XB frame. |
Panshovevo
| Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 - 09:23 pm: |
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quote:...nd basically forged my own cams, connecting rods, cylinder heads, pistons, and a custom fuel injection system, and a ecm that I programed myself...
'Nuff said. Edited to add that I read the whole thread... (Message edited by Panshovevo on September 29, 2015) |
Mrsuperbuckets
| Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2015 - 10:29 am: |
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Don't do it, In order to get the drivetrain to fit you have to do some pretty heavy frame modifications, and trust me it isn't worth it. I could explain it to you fully in depth of what I went through if you would like, my old posts were quite vague. |
Panshovevo
| Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2015 - 11:31 am: |
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I'd love to hear about it. The S&S 145 will require modifications of anything I put it in because of the height... PM if you want. |
Nillaice
| Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2015 - 11:34 am: |
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Pictures say a thousand words |
Oldog
| Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2015 - 11:51 am: |
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I pulled out the thunderstorm engine a single unit engine and replaced it with an engine, transmission and primary. forged my own cams, connecting rods, cylinder heads, pistons Wow you must have one heck of a shop. and tremendous skills, as you were forging both steel and aluminum, how did you heat treat the cams and rods? how did you machine the heads and pistons? what type of valve guides and seats did you use in the heads? any pix of the parts in progress? } |
Mrsuperbuckets
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 09:50 am: |
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Oldog. The "forged my own cams, connecting rods, and cylinder heads, and pistons" is referring to how I helped my brother do all of the forging, he does it as a business, I was just there. I do understand how I am bad at phrasing things on the internet, but I am trying to get better . As for valve guides, we used kpmi valve guides, and I didn't "Make cylinder heads" I modified the existing ones, yet again me not knowing how to phrase things. We used 8620-grade steel for the cams, and we/he used carburizing for the heat treating, it was a much longer process than standard induction heating, but since this was a drag engine, I needed the strongest rods I could get at a reasonable price point. I can email my brother and ask him for the specifics if it tickles you fancy. |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 10:48 am: |
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Interesting, A significant amount of work for the rods or cams. why did you make your own cams vs have some one like andrews make you a set? Or Carillo (sp) make the rods for you? Did you forge the pistons as well? or were they purchased too ( made to your specs )? the xb chassis mash up to the big twin drive line had to be a massive project how did you maintain the alignment of the units? did you have to fab up a cradle to hold it together? |
Mrsuperbuckets
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 11:07 am: |
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I just like making things hard for myself. yes we forged the pistons as well, but that was because I needed them at a specific size, and my brother can do it for me at such a low price... Family discount |
Panshovevo
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 11:16 am: |
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I'm particularly interested in what transmission case you used. Also, how well the oil system (feed and scavenge) worked out with the motor angled 7 degrees. (Message edited by Panshovevo on October 01, 2015) |
Mrsuperbuckets
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 11:37 am: |
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The oil was a concern of mine aswell, but it turned out that it worked... barely, it didnt require anything, but any more than 7% would be too far, ask me how I know. For the transmission I used a JIMS close ratio transmission. |
Panshovevo
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 11:46 am: |
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But what tranny case? |
Solson1041
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 01:50 pm: |
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lol, I remember seeing this guy's story a while ago. I can't believe he didn't get bored from lying yet. Tell me more about this ECU programming you did. Absolutely email your brother, get each of the specs oldog asked for, I'm dying to see how many more vague non-answers we can get out of you. "I needed them at a specific size" lol. |
Solson1041
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 01:51 pm: |
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Exactly what did you have to do to the frame? Like, exactly what did you do? |
Mrsuperbuckets
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 08:00 pm: |
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Someone has some salt in their tiny, very unimpressive penis. |
Panshovevo
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 10:05 pm: |
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quote: Mrsuperbuckets Someone has some salt in their tiny, very unimpressive penis.
I've been trying very hard to give you the benefit of doubt, that in spite of all evidence to the contrary, maybe you really did what you claim, but I've now decided you really are a teenager (and a young one at that) who may have posted pics of his father's or older brother's 1125R, and attempted to create an identity. Hint for next time...if you really were a U.S. "Marshall", you would know it's spelled with one L , not two. Marshal, not Marshall... And carburizing is a surface hardening process, totally inappropriate for connecting rods. |
Solson1041
| Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2015 - 10:55 pm: |
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My dick is super tiny, I've never had sex, but I'm sure if I ever do, there's no way I could satisfy a woman. Now that we're done talking about my junk, you could so easily prove me wrong by describing in detail how you did anything related to this build, but you keep saying the most vague things possible on every turn. Post up some of that source code for your custom ecu, what software did you use to interface with the Harley ecu? Or did you build the whole thing from scratch on a micro controller? What language did you code it in? Or was that lost on the iPhone too? Where'd you have to cut the frame? Did you get the frame re painted after all the cutting and welding? What TIG did you use? What kind of filler rod do you prefer? Where'd you learn to weld so well that you felt comfortable with such heavy fab work on something that is both a fuel tank and a frame? Did you run any analysis on the stresses, or just wing it? Anyone who's done a project of half this magnitude could absolutely slam down every one of those questions with enough detail to make me look like an absolute idiot. I've done some hefty projects, and I know guys who have done stuff as gnarly as this project would hypothetically be. Those guys are both highly motivated and have formal engineering educations. But you didn't do any of this. I'm mostly just surprised you're still doing this considering how long ago I remember seeing your bullshit on the xb forum. Edit: spelling (Message edited by solson1041 on October 02, 2015) |
Mrsuperbuckets
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 12:11 am: |
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Im really bad at this internet thing, plus I am simply to lazy to read that thesis statement of a response. Goodnight all, im officially leaving this forum. |
Solson1041
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 08:02 am: |
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Too lazy to read a dozen sentences, doesn't know what a thesis statement is, yet forges high quality engine parts and programs ECUs in his spare time. Thanks for leaving, I wish this project had actually happened because it sounds like it would be rad, but I'm glad we can finally settle that this never happened, and you're lying for attention. This was a good distraction for a slow week at work, thanks. |
Mrsuperbuckets
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 08:45 am: |
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You are such a worthless piece of human trash, I genuinely hope that something very painful, and life ruining happens to you. |
Froggy
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 09:06 am: |
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I thought you left the forum, what are you still doing here? I love how the same thing has happened on other forums I frequent http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/well-that-ha ppened.1058461/ I'm not saying you are a liar, as anything can be done with enough time and money, but everything you say sounds less and less believable with every new post. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 09:59 am: |
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Maybe he threw all the parts into a tumbler? |
Solson1041
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 10:21 am: |
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Look man, I've already got a tiny penis, why do ya have to go wishing I get hurt too? Spiderman, that must be it! He's got a dryer hot enough to forge steel! Lol. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 11:04 am: |
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nope, he literally threw all the parts and tools into a tumbler, set it on infinite possibilities. Prayed to Jee-bus AND BAM FatXBoy (Message edited by spiderman on October 02, 2015) |
Solson1041
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 12:38 pm: |
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I found OP talking about his Mustang too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKb_bjn94iA |
Panshovevo
| Posted on Friday, October 02, 2015 - 06:48 pm: |
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'Buckets, here's how you do it... A pic of my still crated used 145" motor. It was reportedly removed from a Ness bike because the owner couldn't deal with it's uncivilized characteristics... For what I'd like to do, I'd be much better off with a twin cam motor than a single cam, but the price on this one was right. (Twin cam bolts directly and securely to the tranny) (Message edited by Panshovevo on October 02, 2015) (Message edited by Panshovevo on October 02, 2015) |
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