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Gobadgers
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Layman here. I have an original HD starter that was doing the clicking. Put a new starter on and the S1 started right up, so confident it was the starter. Now after a year the new (cheap) starter has allowed oil to seep in around the bearings into the solenoid causing it to short. So looking at getting the original starter back into shape. Opened it up and see (picture) corrosion on the solenoid lip and also some wear and corrosion on the contact. Do you think this can just be cleaned up and the contact smoothed out, or do I need a solenoid repair kit? Or even more? Also, in the picture you can see the Armature assembly. It was fairly clean, but does this look like excessive wear? Just clean up these contacts too? This starter came off a bike at 16000 miles.



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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Replace the contacts. You can pick up a solenoid rebuild kit for not a whole lot of money.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See how the smaller side contact is more heavily worn than the other one? That's why they click. It forces the plunger to rock sideways in order to make contact. Eventually it can't, and no contact is made. Click.
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Gobadgers
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Hootowl! Appreciate it.
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Ltbuell
Posted on Friday, May 08, 2015 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

..that's what we did at a shop i worked at.Has several types of just starter contacts(got through Napa...they have 'em) for cars...ie Toyotas(solinoid cover looks identical to one that is on the tubers).Pop the starter out,take the small solinoid cover off,remove old contacts,clean all mating surfaces up and install new contact set,put back together and into vehicle....go to go and is way cheaper...customer's really like it alot.Am tempted to try it some day without removing the whole starter from my bike('00 X-1) as the solinoid plate is pretty easy to get to.LT
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can replace the contacts without removing the starter. You need a very short wrench, and a bit of patience.
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Xldevil
Posted on Saturday, May 09, 2015 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good reads about repairing this starters
http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Starter.shtml
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Docs/starter.pdf
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/starter/

Starter Solenoid Repair kit 31603-91
or for Big Twins,which fits as well,
31604-91.
You can also by parts for Toyota starters.

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Koz5150
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2015 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are interested I have a new starter drop me a note. I got one taking up space in my garage. $60 + shipping or come pick it up in Appleton, WI.
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Gobadgers
Posted on Tuesday, May 12, 2015 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you for the replies and information and part numbers. Very helpful. Going to pick up the contacts to have on hand.

Koz, if this does not work, I might be interested.

I cleaned up and resurfaced the contacts, and generally went through the whole starter. Want to see if this works along with the satisfaction of repairing it.

Part of my motivation to get this cycle was to expand my familiarity of engine repair. My hope is to sail around the world and to that end have already crossed the Atlantic where did experience a few issues. Out there you have to be able to take care of things yourself.


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