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99savage
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was preparing to fuel up the 06 Uly today & noticed that there seemed to be a piece of paper, or possibly a leaf, stuck to the edge of the tank opening.

Went to pluck it off but my busted up fingers failed me, as usual, and whatever it was fell into the tank.

(Do not know how it got there but when fueling up I set the gas cap on top of the pump and possibly the last time I added gas it stuck to the gas cap.)


If this was your problem what would you do?
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Fotoguzzi
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2014 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

try to fish out with of those brass brushes use for cleaning a gun barrel, that should be catchy enough to snag it?

(Message edited by fotoguzzi on August 16, 2014)
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would probably ignore it unless a couple of things happen. One, it makes the bike run bad, as in plugged something up. The suction screen is fairly large, because it has multiple surfaces this would be unlikely.

Two, if I somehow saw that little bastard float up to where I could see it I would fight to get it while it was there. A pair of those long reach pinching finger things might do. I'd keep them handy when fueling up.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Etennuly Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2014 -
I would probably ignore it >snip


That's what I would do... for same.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ignoring it and assuming it is now biofuel is probably fine. But it would probably bug me not knowing when it may or may not do something to me, even though intellectually I suspect that would be "never".

I'd drain the tank, drop the fuel pump, look at the wiring and filter for normal failure modes, and try and get the leaf out.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A leaf in the fuel tank is probably equal to sucking a paper towel through the throttle body after an engine rotation and leaky rocker box fix earlier this summer. Probably no harm done in either case but sure makes you feel like a chump when it happens. That sure messed with things until I got the last chunk of the paper out that was holding the butterfly valve partially open. The rest of the paper was smoldering on the floor after being crapped out the ULY's muffler. Surely caused the exhaust valve to open and close over and over and over until I got that paper off and out of the butterfly valve of the throttle body. Followed all that with a hot TPS reset and has run like a champ since and no apparent oil leaks either.
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Nobuell
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How big was the leaf?
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99savage
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guessing a bit on the size, but best estimate is about 2" X 2"

Tried the brass brush but whatever it was is now down into the frame.

*How big a deal is removing the fuel pump?
*What parts should be on hand?
*About how many hours to remove the fuel pump?
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Rayycc1
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

removing the fuel pump is easy...about an hour and a half to take it out and put it back in the first time...GET THE ORINGS before disassembly....also...no need to remove the swingarm...just the bottom shock bolt.

While you're in there be sure to check wires for rubbing and check the two rubber bushings that hold the filter...if they look cracked replace them with a piece of fuel line.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/442427.html?1236781570
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2014 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Honestly I wouldn't worry about it. Come winter or whenever you plan on having the bike down for maintenance, I recommend pulling the fuel pump if it never has been pulled before. Pumps on some of the 06s were problematic due to wire chaffing, you may be able to catch it before it can ever potentially be an issue.
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2014 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If or when you pull the fuel pump, get the two big O rings for the base(lube them with vasoline upon re-installation), the pick up sock(that would likely be the part to plug up), the filter, and do the heat shrink over the wires even if it does not seem to need it, as well as removing any sharp edges on the bracket that would rub the wires.
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