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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2014 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to throw at you guys. Does anyone or has anyone ever had a situation with a Lithium ION battery in that while running the neg cable gets quite hot? I have checked the obvious and the grounds are or seem to be fine, the charging system seems to be fine 13.5 @ idle jumps up to at times 14.1or2 no higher. The reason I ask is over the winter it went(the LI batt) stone dead I started the machine with a boost charger everything seemed ok. My first ride of the season this spring at a light the batt light kicked on I am guessing the harness fix kicked in and shut down a leg when I accelerated light went out batt charged normal. IDK I am thinking of just picking up the H-D battery and going back to the lead acid?
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Dave
ps 09 1125CR
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Nikoff90
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2014 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Loose, corroded, or internally damaged ground connection could cause heating of the wire. The electrons heat things up when they are forced through too small of a channel.
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2014 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah I am just wondering about the lith ION though ? I am gonna run a 02 welding cable for a ground tomorrow see if it helps

(Message edited by brumbear on May 01, 2014)
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2014 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Which Lithium battery are you running? I don't have hot cables on my EBR battery.
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2014 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that shyt one I bought last year it's a

mirai
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Brokengq
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2014 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only way that cable (should) be getting hot is if its pulling too much amperage for some reason. Could be a bad ground (either a lead or a component), could be a short internally in the battery. Regardless the system won't use any more juice off the battery than it needs. A different type battery, amperage, chemical, or size, shouldn't make a difference. At least in my experience.
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Jimustanguitar
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2014 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nikoff and Brokengq are exactly right. Hot wires usually indicate a poor electrical connection. Unless the battery is outputting the wrong voltage, it won't draw any more current than any other battery. The amount of draw is entirely a function of the bike.

My suspicion is that your ground connection (not the battery end, but the connection to the frame) is loose. Check that out before you exert undue effort replacing things.

Good luck!
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2014 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with all the loose connection problems stated above and will ad; a ground or any cable can seem tight but there can be some corrosion between the two surfaces, i.e. the flat side of the cable end and the flat side of the frame. To remedy, remove the cable, clean both surfaces with light sanding and replace. Should help quite a bit.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2014 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well not a loose or bad connection but it was a loose or bad connection I believe I found the issue though. The battery has brass posts and they appear to be glued onto the plastic a little super glue and seems good as new even stopped flickering
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2014 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never heard of Mirai brand battery before.
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I saw them at the NYIMS and figured let me take a shot so I did and as usual I missed sometimes I wonder if I'll ever learn
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