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Gbackus
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anyone ever toy with the idea of doing a custom center mounted radiator, like whats available on the ducait monster s4rs?
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The radiators on the 1190 are center mounted. I guess if you had the money and a good enough fabricator....
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just wish EBR would announce their next range of bikes - who knows what upgrades may be possible ...
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check the EBR forum. It looks like the RS/EX/AX? are going to be streetbike/naked/adventure tourer. We'll find out in October for sure, though.
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Aj2010
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Second gen reverse flow rad ducting is underway (after my crash of 2011) and this time around a Ducati Panigale lower rad is also being added. I had read on here that the ecm starts detuning things once coolant temp rises more than ten degrees above thermostat opening. If this thread is still accessible I will post some pictures once I get a little further along.
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Clutchreaper
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dennon,

Please show us the work you get done with that front rad. I really want to do this as I mount the side fairings on my CR.
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is my favorite answer to your question...custom radiator mounted between custom girder forks. Theoretically, I don't see why you couldn't mod a CR like this. Radiator mounted up high on the forks, and some kind of HID headlight kit. Maybe under the radiator.

Magpul Ronin http://www.magpulheavy.com/aboutronin.html



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Jaredc01
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy ugly batman!
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Wymaen
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jaredc01, you are correct.


I love motorcycles.
-but-
I don't understand much of modern art's appeal.

When someone makes a piece of 'art' with a motorcycle (I'm talking to you, Magpul and Confederate) with a base price in the $40K-$60K range, it makes me nauseous. I understand concept bikes to show off your ideas and just how awesome your design engineers are, but...jesus, man. Be an artist instead of a manufacturer if you want to invoke emotional response.

I'm done holding forth: )
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that Ronin is awsome. Looks like a Tractor humped a Buell...LOL.
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Clutchreaper
Posted on Thursday, July 04, 2013 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 03:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Magpul is just a one-off to show how kewwwwl Magpul is. I like it, but it's just art. I thought the radiator mounting was relevant to the discussion....

Also, it's no uglier than our stock exhausts.

But on further examination and another beer, I think if you tried it with telescopic forks, the tire/fender would end up bashing into the bottom of the radiator...thus the girder front end.
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Alter1
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is the Ronin prototype. The Magpul Ronin has gone through some changes since then and is going into production this year with a limited run of 47 motorcycles with a price tag of about $38K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbyWJVqcO8g

http://roninmotorworks.com/
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1eyert
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is ugly, I cannot believe they will sell 4 much less 47. What kind of performance can it have with that rigid fork?
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not a ridged fork:

quote:


Front Suspension:

Magpul Linkage fork with Penske shock, adjustable for spring preload, and rebound damping; 99 mm travel


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1eyert
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So less than one centimeter of travel?
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Staffn
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

99mm is 9.9cm not 1cm
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In my opinion, you have to look at bikes like that as statement pieces. They are cool street bikes; they are not meant to be race bikes or high performance machines.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's funny, to convert metric to english I always end up sanity checking myself with calibers.

10mm is a little under a .45, so 20mm is probably about an inch. And I remember 2.45 cm per inch.

For what that's worth. : )
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Wymaen
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>And I remember 2.45 cm per inch.

Close- 2.54cm per inch: )
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

or 25.4mm per inch
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Clutchreaper
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2013 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .............................................and back to the original topic.

Has anybody tried a Duc Monster's radiator yet? Would it fit under flexiglass? Obviously if a front mount radiator and pullers were fitted the inner pods and fans could be removed for clearance. It would be awesome.
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Aj2010
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not sure if I understand what is being considered here. A rad mounted in the conventional position of up behind the front wheel will not fit because there is not enough clearance between the front wheel (suspension compressed) and the front exhaust pipe.
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Clutchreaper
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dennon, you're right. The Duc Monster radiator wouldn't be possible as I took a closer look at the clearance today. Anyways, keep us updated.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2013 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AFAIK EBR spent a BUNCH of $$ for a guy in England to make the radiators for the 1190.
Sure slimmed up the Rotax bike tho...

I want them for Loretta... for free.

I really can't explain what this bike means to me...

Z

<edit> I've seen 2 or 3 of the Ronin bikes. the straight 2-2 exhaust from Free Spirits sounds like ass.
Dean Adams 2-1-2 system is on the other end of the spectrum.
They told me of cooling issues but none in a weekday(fast) mountain run.

(Message edited by zac4mac on July 06, 2013)
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Sir_wadsalot
Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's the definative anser to that question-

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/717290.html?1374244781


NVBUELL-
Thought I would share this with the group. Something worth following, if any of you are intersted. Emailed Buell-parts.com about the Typhon and subsequent upgrades and got this response from Jens at NCCR.

"Norbert from buell-parts.com forwarded your message about the Typhon parts. I am the original man behind the Typhon project. The actual radiator solution we use on that bikes is much too expensive because it is based on the spanish Taledo (GP supplier) pods EBR let make there for the 1190R. We started a budget version of the conversion last winter but could not finish it before the season started here in Sweden and now we are too busy to finish it. As we already got 2 Typhon conversion orders for next winter, we are planning to continue the development of the radiator kit in October and hope (again…) to have it available around end of this year. The target price of the radiator kit is app. 2500 Euro and will enclose, 2 x radiators, 1 x oilcooler, expansiontank, mounting hardware, sidecovers and bellypan in fiberglas. Regarding the exhaust, the projects use the very expensive EBR race exhaust, we might come up with a own solution over winter, but that’s behind the radiators scheduled. If you have further questions, I will try to answer it.



Thanks for your request and best regards"



Jens

Jens Krüper
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