| Author | Message | ||
     Buelljunkie |
Earlier tonite Two_seasons mentioned in a post about S2/S3 bags that he had a "very distinct squeal/rubbing sound coming up to a stop and then the first several feet on takeoff". Two_seasons, you got me thinking that the missus' 1200 has the same problem. It's kind of a squeaky groan you can hear at low/mid speeds. Actually it starts making the noise almost exactly at 10 mph and doesn't stop until speed drops below 10mph, then it disappears. Guess I should check that final drive bearing. On a similar note, my '95 S2 had the bearing race on the final output shaft walk itself almost completely off the shaft, so much so that the needle bearings were starting to drop out of the race! None came out, I believe the sprocket cover kept them in (judging by the circular groove on the inside). The square locknut retainer on the sprocket was in place, but the locknut itself was barely finger-tight. The needle bearings appeared undamaged, and I was able to press the race back in and replace the seal, and I re-torqued the locknut. After a short test ride I checked again and the race was beginning to push out the rubber seal. I'm guessing there has to be some end play in the shaft for this to happen? History as I know it is that the bike was purchased new at an HD dealer in Alaska, ridden approx 300 miles and put into storage at an HD dealer in Arizona for 12 or 14 years. Owner #2 purchased and rode it more than the 1st owner did, but when I bought it from him this past winter it still had less than 2500 miles on the odometer. I did change all fluids even though everything appeared to be in tip-top shape. Only took it on a couple very short rides but noticed no drive-ability issues. I really don't have enough free time to dig into it myself, so I'm still looking for a local (and knowledgeable) Buell guy to help me out. After listening to how much you guys love your S2's I really want to experience this bike and compare to the other tubers! } | ||
| Reepicheep |
Not sure about the S2's ,but on the other tubers, what you describe could be a result of running the final drive belt too tight. Easy to do, as following the service manual pretty much means you are. Its a tuber, so easy enough to pop out the transmission and look at that shaft. | ||
| Buelljunkie |
I rotated the rear wheel and found small chunks in decreasing size missing out of 3 consecutive sprocket teeth, . I wonder if he broke a belt and removed the sprocket rather than the rear wheel to install the new belt. Or something got jammed against the sprocket and did some internal damage. I never had a belt break so I'm guessing.. | ||
| Two_seasons |
Buelljunkie, Thanks for this post. What you are describing on your wife's bike is EXACTLY what my S2 is doing. Unfortunately, I do not have bike stands right now, so am reluctant to do any more than just let her sit. Maybe someone locally will see this post and be able to give me a hand in resolving where the groan/squealing is coming from and the root cause of same. After reading your profile Dave, I don't see how riding it down to Aurora can do any more damage to it (belt has been loosened now). Can I self invite myself to your garage? | ||
| Reepicheep |
Two, sounds like a 5th gear drive assembly. Sucks, but not the end of the world. And a good reason to be happy you have a tuber with a cartridge transmission. | ||
| Hootowl |
Steve, a pair of jack stands and a piece of rebar (or any steel rod) through the axle works for a wheel stand in a pinch. I've even used a couple of 3/8" extensions when I couldn't find the steel rod I usually use. | ||
| Buelljunkie |
Two-You are welcome anytime, as would be just about any BadWeb'r. Looks to be about a 2+ hour ride. You got much better roads up there then we do here in the flatland, tho! I wanted to mention one other symptom regarding the groaning tranny - if I give firm pumps on the rear brake while coasting (I did it on my residential street, so under 20mph) there is a clunking from the primary every time the rear brake is FIRMLY applied. It's very similar to what you hear shifting into 1st at a stop lite. I don't hear it with normal braking, so I liken it to drive lash you might experience when decelerating abruptly by closing the throttle. I have a number to a supposedly knowledgeable Buell guy I think I met at the Brat Stop or something up your way in Wisconsin. I should give him a call, maybe he can help us both out, as well as others. I would love to start digging into it myself, I just don't have the time and more importantly the SPACE to keep things organized during disassembly. M-a-y-b-e I have one too many bikes in the garage. Maybe. Nah.. | ||
| Two_seasons |
Reep, You are so right, I just need to do what I can from what I have laying around. Hoot, I do have jackstands. If I push the front wheel up against the garage wall with a couple of 2x4's nailed together for a wheel chock, that should work. A couple of feet of rebar and i'm good. Buelljunkie, Yeah, know what you mean about space. I've got a 2-car garage. I'll have to try your rear brake test in the neighborhood. Honestly, since I got it home last October, I haven't even cracked the primary inspection hole to see how tight the primary chain is. All I did was ride it home, put some slack into the drive belt, gave the wife a ride on it for 20 or so miles, rode it to work once to show it off to my co-workers and it's sat ever since. Needs a new battery, but I knew that last October. Remote chance it the stator. Don't know age of the battery. It's great having a bunch of Buell's but my budget was cut almost a year ago by 14% (changed jobs within GE) so life is not so fast and loose. I'll be trying/checking the simple things first, then I'll be in touch Matt. You're right, this is solvable, just time constrained right now as you are. Thanks for the feedback guys. | ||
| Reepicheep |
They still have that GE "hotel" there in Wakeusha? Been a long time, but those rooms were dirt cheap. Rent one and sneak the bike in there to work on it.  | ||
| Two_seasons |
Update... History: when coming to a stop or starting out from a stop, the bike had a distinct squeak. Sounded like it was coming from the primary. What I found: the output shaft pulley (the front pulley) had worked it's way loose. The spines in the pulley were worn down to slivers, the output shaft was good. Replaced 29 tooth pulley, 1 1/8 nut, retaining plate, and the two screws that hold it in place. Kudos to HD. They spec'ed that pulley to be the "sacrificial part" instead of the output shaft. Hope this helps somebody else down the line. Thanks to all for your help  | ||
| Buellistic |
SOLVE YOU REAR SPROCKET WHEEL BEARING/COUNTER SHAFT BEARING PROBLEMS !!! DRIVE BELT(chain if you did that)ADJUSTMENT Class 101, just PM me for a copy ... |
