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Uly_man
| | Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2012 - 06:36 pm: | 
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The term "adventure bike" is just the latest bike fashion and started after the Ewan/Charlie trip thing. And they only went on the GS because KTM would not play ball. Before that if you rode something like a XTZ 750 (as I did), Africa Twin, KTM, etc people thought that you were VERY strange and just Paris-Dakar "wannabes". Those who had been riding them knew, as others do now, why they work on normal roads.
Multistrada - forget it. Buy a 1989 Yamaha XTZ750. Rebuild it from the last nut up, brace the forks, put on a Hagon shock, Distanzia tires and it will do 120mph and "off-road" with the best. Now that is a PROPER adventure bike? |
Terrible1one3
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2012 - 12:35 am: |
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The fact of matter is the Uly and Multi are road bikes. Don't ever mistake them for something else.
Can they do other things? Yes. Were they designed to? No. Were they meant to make you talk yourself into being more than they are? Absolutely. |
Dr_greg
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2012 - 11:12 am: |
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If you like the Multi strudel look up Dr Greg here or on AdvRider he has had several Ulys and Multis He is a long distance rider. He has the most experience I know of with both bikes
Hey, thanks for the mention! I've been in China for a month, but getting ready to leave tomorrow for my "US East" trip. Gonna try and visit Civil War sites. Will have a ride report up on ADVrider.com. Yes, I'll be riding the Multistrada 1200S.
Currently have 23K miles on the '10 Multistrada (should have 35K if I hadn't totaled the first one) and it's been pretty much troublefree.
Although note that I'd still be doing LD riding on the '06 Uly (now my commuter) if BMC hadn't been axed.
See ya later; gotta finish packing now!
--Doc |
Terrible1one3
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2012 - 12:26 pm: |
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Hey Dr. I live about 5 miles away from bull run in Bristow VA. If you are swinging through and need a bed and/or food give me a ring. Only cost to you is letting me ride the Multi  .
PM me or e mail me at my username at gmail if interested. |
Buewulf
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2012 - 09:28 am: |
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The fact of matter is the Uly and Multi are road bikes. Don't ever mistake them for something else.
Fair enough, but I "mistake" mine for something else all the time. The adventure bike group as a category have decent ground clearance and a bit more suspension travel which makes them effective in conditions that would become a very expensive endeavor to traverse on say an R1200RT. Though they are basically the same bike, I have gone places on the Uly that I could not have gone on a Lightning SS, at least not without ripping the muffler off or bottoming the shock (and my spine) into oblivion. Plus the rider triangle on the Uly (and other adventure bikes) makes standing on the pegs and wrestling these big bikes less tiring.
Those same features also make adventure bikes better sport bikes than repli-racers on less-than-racetrack road conditions and almost as good for soaking up highway miles as many touring bikes. Being able to do all of this competently is, too me, what defines an adventure bike and is why I love the segment. If they were truly nothing more than road bikes, I would just get a Speed Triple or something and not concern myself with tiptoeing this tall bastards around. |
Buewulf
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2012 - 11:37 am: |
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Expecting there to be a 100+ HP new technology 'low price tag' bike of any genre is silly.
Oh, I am not naive about that fact. I obviously wasn't clear enough, but my point is exactly the one that you made: you have to sacrifice motorcycle, rather than "new technology", to get a lower price tag.
11K is indeed a superb value for a bike like the S10 (wish I could find a dealer here that would come anywhere near that $). Even if it were so, could I order it without the ABS and traction control and get it for say 9.5K? Nope. I for one don't mind the "new" tech, especially ABS, but others would just assume not pay for it if they could.
Also, I draw a line between Dual-Sport (like many of the bikes you mentioned) and Adventure bikes though I can't really argue against grouping them together, either. That Husky is really kind of the "blur" point between the two segments, at least the way that my mind divides the segments. (Is it really only going to be $7000?) For me, engine output below a certain level along with focus are what essentially puts a motorcycle into the DS class as opposed to the ADV class: DS bikes have a clearer focus (off-road) sacrificing displacement for weight savings, multi-cylinder efficiency for the slimmer packaging of a single, impact plastics for fairings, etc., and the bikes' utility in other segments begins to suffer noticeably for it.
In short:
ADV Bikes - You can do ALMOST anything and be glad that you did.
Everything else - You can do ALMOST anything but wish that you wouldn't have.
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Uly_man
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2012 - 02:44 pm: |
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"ADV Bikes - You can do ALMOST anything and be glad that you did.
Everything else - You can do ALMOST anything but wish that you wouldn't have."
I would say that about covers it. And lest we forget, for those of us who need it, how nice it is to have a, hard to find these days, tall frame. And for those who do not need one - DO NOT buy a bike that is to tall for YOU. Would you buy a hat that covers your eyes, shoes that are tight, a Howitzer as a hand gun or a car that is bigger than your garage? |
Buewulf
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2012 - 03:25 pm: |
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DO NOT buy a bike that is to tall for YOU.
If I followed that rule, a Yamaha TW200 would be the nearest thing to an adventure bike I could own, and that just wouldn't do.  . |
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