| Author | Message | ||
     Yellow_xb9s |
I stopped by my dealer yesterday to find they have an xb9sx in stock. I really like the villain black wheels. I think I'll get a set for mine. While looking the bike over, I noticed there's an additional threaded hole in the lower horizontal member that spans the front fork... It's in the mirror image location of of the retainer that secures the front brake line. Do you suppose the engineers at Buell are planning a dual front brake set-up from the factory? | ||
| Anonymous |
Not a chance. | ||
| M1combat |
The brakes are already VERY powerful and adding a second caliper, rotor, mounting equipment, brake line, fluid and a set of pads would do away with a LOT of the major engineering that went into the front wheel. Get a copy of this months Fuel and start reading at page 14  . | ||
| Court |
>>>>Not a chance. Let me expound. Erik Buell would never divert resources to making a motorcycle with poorer braking. Your ZTL Buell represents the state of the art. Incredible talent was invested in minmizing the weight, optimizing the system and providing braking second to none. (note: there are many sportbikes with great brakes) Adding weight, by compromising suspension dynamics, undermines this work. Not a chance in hell. Court | ||
| Brucelee |
Lets, see, with two up front, I can hurl myself FURTHER over the handlebars???? I don't think so Tim! | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
ok that one inverted brake was used to make the world record stoppie how much more stopping power you want? | ||
| Hippo888 |
Due to my lack of skill, the XB9S has been the only bike I've ever done a rolling stoppie on. In my opinion, it does not need another disk up front. Paul in MI | ||
| Dj_rider |
someone explain to me how the heck to do a stoppie i seen this nutcase on a yamaha do one the other day and i couldnt belive it | ||
| Mookie |
this is how i learned, just try stopping later when coming up to stop signs. eventually you will find how hard you can pull on the brakes to get your results. I dont know how to explain them as they werent explained to me but you could google "how to do a stoppie" and it will come up for you as i just tried. | ||
| Dj_rider |
thanks mookie | ||
| Aztec12r |
Yep.... just lay on that front brake lever and your "stoppie" learning curve will go as vertical as your bike. Have fun! | ||
| Glitch |
One thing left out. You must be willing to drop your bike. A stoppie gone bad, is none too good for you or the bike. Somebody had to say it. | ||
| Whosyodaddy |
Think I'll give it a try tonight. Uh, does anyone have a 12S I can borrow for a few minutes?  | ||
| Xbolt12 |
Anonymous, How about those 8 puck Buell racing ZTL calipers on the Hal's bike-any chance we might see them on a future model or for sale as a racing part to the general public?? xbolt12 | ||
| Court |
>>>just try stopping later when coming up to stop signs. I'd suggest not doing this on any road with a stop sign. If you'll remind me, I'll repost my old "braking practice" diatribe when I get home tonight. I'd suggest you LEARN your Buell, not experiment with it or "dare" it to do things. Court | ||
| Benm2 |
Stoppie & crashie are good friends. To heck with the 8-piston caliper, when will the dual intake throttle bodies & velocity stacks be available in the "race kit"? | ||
| Brucelee |
I never understood why anyone would do a stoppie? Makes you look like you don't know how to ride (dumb) and is a very good way to ruin your nice Buell. Be mature and use the brake like it was intended. Don't confirm your immaturity to the rest of the world! | ||
| Tbs_stunta |
Stoppies are great way to do a single-lane U-Turn. Do a stoppie, swing that azz around, and off you go.  | ||
| Outrider |
Like Trix...Stoppies are for Kids! Why? Because they are fearless and heal quicker. | ||
| Steve_a |
On a road with reasonably good traction, an XB will pick up the back wheel before the front tire locks. Stoppies on the XB are easy -- just brake hard, and back off before it loops. There are a lot of sportbikes that behave similarly; the first street bike I rode that would pick up the back tire every time from speed when braking into a corner on a racetrack was a Ducati Paso prototype -- that was maybe 1986 or 1987. A lot of this has to do with the traction provided by radials -- the Paso was neither short nor particularly top or front heavy, but it had a gumball Pirelli on an unusually wide rim. I do brake harder than most people, and I find that I lift the back wheel of an XB12 routinely. The new XB12Scg, btw, has that tendency noticeably reduced because of the center of gravity being dropped by somewhere in the 5 to 7 percent range. | ||
| Yellow_xb9s |
Do you suppose a touring model might benefit from dual fronts? Maybe they're planning to offer a touring model? Just curious... | ||
| Socoken |
i dont like stoppies because there is no way to set them down nicely. a good wheelie can be ridden out and set down smoothly, but a stoppie, theres no way to avoid the BANG the bike makes when the rear end drops to the pavement. just unsettling to me, and i AM a kid, so go figure. | ||
| Glitch |
Stoppie gone bad. These are pro stunt riders on a closed course, do not attempt this at home     Last Tuesday at the Cycle Gear parking lot. | ||
| Buelluk |
Yup ,the squids love to watch that sort of bs | ||
| Kmkommes |
Brucelee "I never understood why anyone would do a stoppie? Makes you look like you don't know how to ride (dumb) and is a very good way to ruin your nice Buell. Be mature and use the brake like it was intended. Don't confirm your immaturity to the rest of the world!" Are you serious? You sound like my mom, or maybe my grandma. I suppose you don't support superbike or motocross racing either because it's way too dangerous and why would people want to drive that fast. People do wheelies and stoppies because it is fun and if done right it is pretty darn cool. I just thought I'd say this to confirm my immaturity. go to www.uponone.com and check out the "how to" section. There is a guide to stoppies and wheelies and other stuff. There is also a video on how to do wheelies. Good site for bike videos too. | ||
| Brucelee |
"Are you serious? You sound like my mom, or maybe my grandma" They sound like wise folks who care about you! Why don't you listen to them? "I suppose you don't support superbike or motocross racing either because it's way too dangerous and why would people want to drive that fast." I don't know what you mean by "support". I don't participate in these sports but have no issue with them. Then again, they don't do this on the Coast Highway, but on a course that is designed for the activity and with bikes they expect to break (along with their bones!). On the street, don't act like an •••! Makes you look bad! | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Nothing wrong with stoppies or wheelies...well stoppies can be a bit painful on your back after you do them 30 times in 1 day | ||
| Whosyodaddy |
A good stoppie: http://redztread.com/vidz/725.wmv A not so good stoppie: http://redztread.com/vidz/endoops.mpg enjoy! WYD | ||
| Starter |
Mastering the stoppie is actually a good way to find the limits of the front brake so as in an emergency you know exact how much front you can grab and be safe. Grab probably isn't the best word but I got a small vocabulary. | ||
| Glitch |
No handed wheelie?  | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
there is nothing wrong with a stoppi if you know how to do it right i wouldnt go doing them on a $10,000 motorcycle if i never done one before but they are still fun | ||
| Brucelee |
"there is nothing wrong with a stoppi if you know how to do it right" You are right, the last time I saw a guy do one on the street, I just thought, "Hmm, I hope someday I can buy HIS bike!" | ||
| Buelluk |
Same as on the front..how are the fork seals going to stand up to being constantly abused --oopps sorry 'ridden ' by squids. I do however agree with Starters comment about finding the limit of the front brake and at the same time the grip level of the front tire. | ||
| Mookie |
I personally enjoy trying them. I have no intention of ever doing a wheelie in traffic nor a stoppie. I enjoy riding my bike at 120+ i guess that i just want to be a well rounded rider in all aspects. you can call me a squid or dangerous, i guess dont ride with me. Im the one with the grin on my face though. |
