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Rodrob
Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2012 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shaw Higbee battles Aussie Dave Anthony, Brice Prince, Chris Duran and others in the Toyota Cup Formula 1 race at Willow Springs Raceway on 10/16/11

http://crotchrocket.tv/s02-e1190RSp9.html

Shawn comments on the race here -

http://crotchrocket.tv/s02-e1190RSp10.html
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome Rob.
Excellent video. I think my wife tried to talk to me.

Heheheh Shawn wins the race and congratulates Erik.
Can't beat this caliber of people.
All the best.

Z
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Smoke
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good work fellows!!
congrats.
tim
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Xb9er
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Congratulations guys!
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Epic video! Thanks for sharing Rob! I can't get enough of this stuff.
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Court
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting faces in interesting places . . . the critical mass approaches and folks like Rob and Shawn are on the cutting edge.

Nothing short of amazing . . . an amazing effort, amazing riding, amazing passion and commitment on Rob's part and an amazing result.

Since 1987 . . . . Buell has been fueled by the passion of obsessed owners, friend and enthusiasts.

Congrats to Rob, Shawn and the team . . I love seeing this.

Court
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Avalaugh
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What CC are the other bikes, think I spotted a R6 but it's hard to tell in race trim ?

Can someone explain why the 1125 was always competing against 600's, I'm not clues up with race regs etc.
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Rodrob
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

F1 is an anything goes class. Any displacement, any mods. Most bikes a liter bikes.
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Torquehd
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow, what a race!
shawn seems like a spot-on guy too, very grateful for everyone who's made it possible for him to be out there doing what he loves.

congrats to everyone involved!
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Can someone explain why the 1125 was always competing against 600's

Only in AMA.

Daytona Sport Bike is a formula class designed to allow a broad range of bikes to compete. In addition to 600cc inline-4 bikes, the 1,000cc Aprilia is allowed, the 1170cc BMW HP-2, the 675cc 3-cyl Triumph and so on.

There will always be controversy whenever formula classes are in place in any kind of racing, and the Buell's placement in DSB was no exception. Personally, I think it was perceived worse because not a single one of the other bike types ever made a significant showing, so it looked a lot like the Buell did get special treatment. So, it developed a perception of being a "600 class", even though it wasn't/isn't.

I also think it's fair to argue the 1125r had certain advantages, but it's worth noting the only rider to win on the Buell also won the class on a 600, and no other rider on any bike other than a 600 did well.

Long story with a lot of vitriol on both sides of the argument if you are interested in the history of it.
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Torquehd
Posted on Monday, April 23, 2012 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what are the specs on shawn's bike?
what does it make for power, what does it weigh, and what general modifications have been done?
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Avalaugh
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks jdugger
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> I also think it's fair to argue the 1125r had certain advantages...

If you want to be fair, you'd also need to argue certain disadvantages (poor aerodynamics, higher minimum weight, and spec tires designed for lighter 600 cc IL4s)
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>>> I also think it's fair to argue the 1125r had certain advantages...

That's accurate.

They, the rules making folks who know far more than I, worked hard in an attempt to balance those very advantages with the disadvantages in an effort to create parity in the racing.

It seems apparent they've done well and they are to be admired for constantly, during the course of a season, having a vehicle to reevaluate and rebalance.

Racing has become fun again with so many marques in the top 10.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks jdugger, that was the best explanation of DSB and some of the issues involved.

Blake ~ Do these spec tires have any similarity to the street versions we ride on?

Court ~ when you said reevaluate and rebalance, does that mean mid season rules changes?
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> to be fair, you'd also need to argue certain disadvantages

Or just the fact only one rider was ever successful on the Buell, and that same rider won the class on a 600.
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Do these spec tires have any similarity to the street versions we ride on?

They are available to you. They are the "GP-A" Dunlop DOTs.

They are a race tire, so they are better than a street tire in terms of grip. But, the ones used in AMA are nothing like the UK-Sourced Dunlop GP DOT N-Tec tires so many in the club racing ranks swear by.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Blake ~ Do these spec tires have any similarity to the street versions we ride on?

The best answer is probably that your street tires would hurt laps times through race distance to the tune of seconds per lap.

Like JD says, you can purchase the special DOT race tires too. Not at all advisable for use on the street. They wear out too quickly and are thought to get up to optimum temperature.
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