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Buellrobot
| Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 10:21 pm: |
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I took the stoneguard and the lower chain guard off my X1's swingarm, for cleaning, but am having a hell of a time getting the wellnuts back in. I've looked at the manual and it doesn't show flanges on the OEM well nut. Here's my crude drawing: (===| <---screw would go in this direction The middle is the part that goes through the stoneguard and the swingarm, but that flange makes it basically impossible to get through. Is there a trick to getting this done, or do I just need to go find non-OEM well nuts that fit? |
Harleyelf
| Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 10:50 pm: |
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Can you post an actual photo? |
Buellrobot
| Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 11:16 pm: |
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Yeah, I'll take one next time I'm at the garage (prob tomorrow). |
Rich
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 06:46 am: |
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You need new wellnuts. They dont have a "flange" on them, they distort when you tighten them. I thimk. |
Ducxl
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 07:43 am: |
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EASY!! squeeze the head(tophat brim) through from the back! (Message edited by ducxl on November 26, 2011) |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 09:45 am: |
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Are they rubber, or metal? If they're rubber, they still have a metal nut inside. That metal nut can get lodged sideways and stick. Knead it a little bit, maybe spritz some oil in there to let it move some, and it should straighten out and "compress" enough for you to get it installed again. If they're metal, they're single-use. Think "threaded rivet". |
Thylacine
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 01:03 pm: |
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Thread in the screw to wellnut and push it in the hole |
Akbuell
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 02:53 pm: |
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Based on my aircraft interior experience, wellnuts are not one of my favorite fasteners, and you now know why. Rant over. IIRC, they are available in the hardware section of Lowes. I bought extras, so they would be on hand when needed. Easier/quicker to just replace than fiddle with cranky ones. |
Road_thing
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 05:54 pm: |
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What Ak said. They're about $1 apiece. rt |
Buellrobot
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 09:08 pm: |
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They're rubbery, but still fairly stiff. I tried like hell to push them through that swingarm. I think I'll just get new ones. Wanted to make sure there wasn't a really easy solution that I hadn't thought of (like there so often seems to be). Thx for the advice, all.
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Ratbuell
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 09:17 pm: |
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It's a hex nut inside a rubber boot. Thread the bolt into the nut. Twist and wiggle until the nut lines up with the nut-shaped-hole inside the boot. It'll fit. As long as they aren't torn, you're good. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 09:49 pm: |
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While you're in there, spritz some oil on the brass nut's threads. I had to cut mine off due to corrosion locking them together. |
Buellrobot
| Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 12:10 am: |
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Ratbuell, I'm not entirely sure what you mean -- if I line this nut up inside the rubber sleeve, it will somehow fit through the hole in the swingarm? I can thread the bolt all the way in, without any problem. So it seems like it's lined up ok. |
Harleyelf
| Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 12:24 am: |
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Remove the nuts from the rubbers by pulling them with the screws. Push the rubbers into place on the bracket. Put the nuts back into their grooves from the side they need to be on, using screws as handles. Assemble the screws through the belt guard and rubber nut holders you just put into bracket. Tighten. |
Ducxl
| Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 07:38 am: |
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MAAAANNNNNN!!!! I cannot believe the agony!! To reuse you do not need to engage the nut/hole at all! SQUEEZE the thin head flange through FROM the BACK of the hole! Of course...ANY hardwaRE STORE HAS 10-32 AND 1/4-20 WELLNUTS CHEAP.But yours CAN be reused. Do you know a 10-32 thread is almost identical to a 4mmx1.5mm pitch thread? You can thread a 10-32 into a 4mm |
Britchri10
| Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 08:02 am: |
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Ducx1: +1. That is the easiest way i found of reinstalling well nuts. Chris C |
Akbuell
| Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 10:01 am: |
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Ducxl- thanks for the tip. One I will remember and try the next time I need it. Won't necessarily change my attitude about wellnuts, tho .... LOL |
Ducxl
| Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 11:12 am: |
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OHhhhh believe ME i HATE wellnuts! One of mine came with Dzus fasteners on the fairing.Another of the same make came with a bazzillion wellnuts holding the fairings on.I KNOW wellnuts! |
Buellrobot
| Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2011 - 09:50 pm: |
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Finally had a chance to tinker more -- my problem was that I was trying to fit the wellnuts and the stoneguard on at the same time, which made it all but impossible to push the flanges through the swingarm. I didn't realize it, but the stoneguard fits over the back side of the well nut. First, smoosh the hell out of the flanges and push them into the swingarm from the rear. Second, put the stoneguard over the rear of the well nuts (they'll slip over the back of the well nut). Third, add the bottom belt guard and bolts from the front. My fingers are tired now. (thanks for the suggestions) |
Littlebuggles
| Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 12:40 am: |
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Hahaha Good reading guys, thanks for the Sunday night entertainment. I don't remember that about that lower belt guard, so thanks for the reminder. So much better a story than a blown headgasket... ...and it even has a happy ending. |