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Whosyodaddy
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are the 208 Duns significantly better than the 207s that came on the earlier XBs?

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Buellgator
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 208s are a road race tire. The 207s are more of a sticky street tire. I think you'll find that most people have had better luck with different tires other than stock. I went to Bridgestone BT010s and I think my bike handles way better with those than the stock 207s.
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Leeaw
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who really knows as mine came with 207's and I keep reading how great the M1's are.

I don't ride that hard and have not found fault with the 207's but if the standup under breaking is a fault of the tire, then I am not getting them again.
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Buelluk
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I't wouldn't take much for a 208 to be significantly better than a 207.

If Buell can fit the Pirelli dual purpose tires on the new CityCross ,why can't they fit Diablos on the S & R
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Steve_a
Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>The 208s are a road race tire. The 207s are more of a sticky street tire.<<

Well, not quite. The Buell XB 207s are a special tire that Dunlop originally made up for a Japanese production racing class. It had an exceptionally light carcass and a gumball compound, and was nothing like a standard 207. The new 208s fitted to 2005 XBs, according to Buell, are a special Buell version, and are lighter than the aftermarket 208s Dunlop offered last year, though slightly heavier (about 1.25 pounds both combined) than the 207s. Buell claims that the new 208s have more grip than the 207s (due to a better, high-silica compound), and last about 50 percent longer. You also get less change in steering torque if you brake while leaned over with them.
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Bluefirebolt
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm running the D208 now after the first tirechange on my 12R,i wasn't happy with OM D207,because you lose grip when you go deep in the corners,the 208 is much more round and you can go deeper when cornering and open the the throtle a bit sooner without sliding,but hey thats my experience here in europe,i don't think they make different tires for the US and EU,
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

gator,

The D208 ZR tires are not anything close to a racing tire. The D208 GP tires are racing tires.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve,

Thanks for that insider bit of knowledge. Very interesting.
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Starter
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

208 is just the upgrade for the 207. Different tyre profile and compound. Better but not by as much as most will claim. And forget them in the wet.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am under the impression the D207U's are no longer in production (according to Dunlops web site), and the D208 is the replacement. First time I replaced my XB tires, the D207U rear was listing for $180 at the dealership, and a D208 was $105 at a rice shop down the street. FWIW
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Steve_a
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>The new 208s fitted to 2005 XBs, according to Buell, are a special Buell version, and are lighter than the aftermarket 208s Dunlop offered last year, though slightly heavier (about 1.25 pounds both combined) than the 207s. <<

Wrong. I misunderstood something Erik said. The 208s used on the XBs for 2005 are standard Dunlops, though lighter than prior 208s because of Dunlop's running changes. The weight difference information remains correct.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We now have documented proof that Steve, at one time in his life, gave us wrong information. No political future for you now Steve! joker
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