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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 1125 will need its 6200 mile service this Fall but I'm thinking about switching to Amsoil this Summer. Will I need to dump the oil while doing the valve check? (yeah I need to get a shop manual)
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why are you touching your valves at 6200? Book says do it at 12400, and both of my bikes were in spec, no adjustment needed.
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Milezero5
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea, a bit premature lol
Im switching to amsoil as well as Im doing the valve adj. as we speak. I simply cant go the 6500 miles between oil changes, dumped the 3500 miles I have on the HD syn and it was black as night. You have a while before you get to any adj. Just ride the thing.
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Xbniner
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah checking valves is no joke, you have to rotate the motor and disconnect exhaust and everything. That said, mine is currently torn apart at 7k miles due to a top end noise that ended up being 3 out of 4 rear cylinder valves being out of spec. The two exhaust are too loose and one intake is too tight.
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1_mike
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NO it's NOT premature.

I checked mine at just over 4000 miles and they were ALL way too tight, as in, under the minimum clearance value.

If I'da waited...I'd have metal trash floating all over inside my engine, trashing the cams, rockers, bearings, oil pump, etc.

And no, you don't HAVE to...but I change my oil after a few miles of driving to wait till any trash that may have gotten onto the top of the cylinder head gets down into the crank case so it can be washed out.

Mike
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Crabby
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If its under warrenty dont care. Ill take a new engine
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Ohsoslow
Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i think MOST people will fine they are tight even after 3k miles, the valve seats have "seated".

to the op's question....no but it is a good idea to anyways

(Message edited by ohsoslow on June 30, 2011)
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1_mike
Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Crabby -

Let me get this straight..
You go out and spend a good hand full of money on a new Buell.
The valve adjustment is tight...things start going bad...you take the bike into a shop to be "fixed".

And just how long will the bike be sitting while Harley...a place that "doesn't" want to be working on the bike in the first place, deals with the Buell guys to decide on a rebuild or an engine out of another bike....
Then they decide to fix it...one way or the other.

Meanwhile...summers fading fast, your friends are out on their bikes, while your "new" bike is sitting in the shop collecting dust...

Yea....sounds like the right decision to me...!

Mike
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmm, I haven't checked the book--just thought it said to check the valves at 6200 miles. Froggy, since you're a hypermiler, maybe your "more gentle than the average rider" riding style resulted in the valves not tightening up as quickly as those on many other 1125s.

Those of you whose 1125s had valves that were tight, did you notice any rideability issues? IE anything that would have tipped you off that something wasn't right? Or did the bike run fine the whole time?

I ask because my 1125 seems to run really well, so if the book says don't check the valves until 12K, I may well put it off until that point.
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Crabby
Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1_mike

Its summer all the time here. and the buell is not my only bike. Its an enjoyable bike for sure, but its not THE ONLY BIKE ZOMG.

Edit- i have been putting on 6+k miles a year on it.
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