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Luv2spd
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm getting up to 15,000mi now on my '03 XB9R and it is time to change the belt. In the owner's manual it says to replace the idler pulley as well with the belt. Is this necessary? I buy all my parts from americansprotbike.com, but they don't offer any older version idler pulleys, just the newer ones 2004-2010 which doesn't fit my bike. I know you can buy the upgraded conversion kit, but it is a lot of money. If I upgrade to the better belt set up, will the plastic belt guards that I have to buy along with the kit fit my older style swing arm? Any help is appreciated.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inspect the idler and it's bearings. Both can wear out but if neither is worn, don't fix it if it aint broke.
In fact, I wouldn't even change the belt if it passed a close inspection.

If you decide to do it anyway (I don't blame you one bit) the upgraded setup is the way to go and American Sportbike will help you with your questions. Al can and will help you get the right parts and advise you on the installation.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if you change to the upgraded system you will have to change to the 04-05 belt guards. American Sport Bike has those on there site and they will fit the 03 swing arm. In 06 they changed the swing arm so those belt guards will not fit.
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Andymnelson
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IMO, if you have not abused the belt then keep running it. The majority of '03 belt failures are from the belt being mishandled. There are 3 forces that they do not like:
1) being bent backwards
2) being bent sideways
3) being bent too tightly in it's proper direction

for example: a mechanic who is not aware, will simply bend the belt off to the side when removing the rear wheel, therefore causing a stress that can cause failure.

if you can be reasonably sure that it has not been mis-handled, then why replace a non-broken part. Better yet, why spend $500-600 on the "upgrade" parts??
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Iman501
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what parts are needed to convert from the 03 system to the newer system? (i want to collect them all over time so its not to big of a hit on the wallet)
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ian, you need both front and rear pulley, new belt guards, new idler pulley, and most importantly, the belt. : )

If you keep an eye on ebay, you shouldn't have a hard time finding most of the parts pulled off wrecked bikes, then go and get yourself a shiny new belt.
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Iman501
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

do i need the belt guards?...i just took mine off my bike like three days ago when i changed my back tire, and sweet, doesnt sound like a bad list at all, thanks froggy!!!
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you don't need them but they are good to have (this coming from a man who took his 03 guards off and could not get them back on so they stayed off)
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a belt guard discussion going on in the 1125R board, one member here almost lost his hand in a wreck when it got caught between the belt and swingarm. Never would of happened if he left the guards on. Granted, thats a freak accident, and the more likely scenario is your sprockets and belt will take damage from rocks and other debris. I posted a photo of my unguarded sprocket in the thread.


Funny, I recently cut the rear hugger off my Blast, due to the fasteners welding themselves on and I needed to put on a new belt.
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Boliver
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 30,000 miles on my original belt. I don't ride my bike hard and I NEVER leave it out in the weather. Just an FYI. Best of luck. Oh yeah my belt guards are long gone too.
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Captcaz
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been gathering all the parts/pieces for the upgrade over the past year or so, and if my 03 belt blows - I'm ready. Well almost ... anyone have a front pulley they are looking to part with?

So here's a thread with a pic and some info ...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/21/ 480994.html
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Chainsaw
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

..In the owner's manual it says to replace the idler pulley as well with the belt. Is this necessary?

IIRC, some guys just replace the bearings in the idler pulley instead of replacing the whole shebang.
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Datsaxman
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on bearings only...
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Damnut
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

for example: a mechanic who is not aware, will simply bend the belt off to the side when removing the rear wheel, therefore causing a stress that can cause failure.


I think it's more luck of the draw. I have over 27K on my original belt and have had it off/on countless times. I have bent that belt every which way and I haven't had a problem with it yet.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damnut, your XB has the newer style belt, not the 03 belt which many have deemed fragile.
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Luv2spd
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the tips.
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Briz31
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They have 03 Belts in Australia for $265 AUD. Got one fitted last month..
"stone cut" at 18,500km..
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes the 03 belts are weaker but I've heard that claim with newer belts as well. : )
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