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Doug_s
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 02:30 pm: |
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hi all, at ~41k, the drive belt snapped on my '95 s2; the dealer found this when getting ready to replace the belt - bearing walking itself out of the sprocket. anyone see/hear about this before? suggestions? (besides replace the bearing.)
thanks, doug s. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 02:49 pm: |
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Happened to me once, used a socket to hammer it back in after putting some assembly lube on the rollers. Put a new seal on and it never happened again... |
Spiderman
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 02:50 pm: |
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Let me add, make sure it isn't damaged before tapping it back in... |
Kalali
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 04:52 pm: |
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That bracket looks little messed up, no? |
Kalali
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 04:54 pm: |
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Also remember that the nut is left hand threaded. |
Doug_s
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 07:42 pm: |
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a far as i know, no messed up bracket - not sure what you are seeing in the pics. but, i have another question - any suggestions for upgrading the durability of the stock 40202-91a sprocket - the splines are fried on mine, and i will be replacing it. i am looking for something more durable, w/stock 29t ratio. i am not too excited about getting another stock cast part, or "lightweight" aluminum. baker makes a nice steel one, but only 28t, afaik... doug s. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 07:46 pm: |
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I tried an aluminium Belt Drive specialties one with a steel insert for the spline. The belt contact surface wore down by about half in 13k miles. I then ordered a stocker to replace and no issues... |
Doug_s
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 07:55 pm: |
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ok, so who has the best prices on a stocker, besides the $240 quoted to me by the dealer. i guess i can live w/40k miles before i need another one. thanks, doug s. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:24 pm: |
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That thing is missing like half of the rollers and we're concerned about a possible broken bracket? That bearing needs to be replaced, especially if it's been run at all in the state its in. |
Doug_s
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:32 pm: |
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missing bearings? the shop said the bearings looked ok. where would they have gone? could they fall out completely on the ground, when being ridden? it looks to me like the bearings are still being held in place... the shop said it's about 4 hours labor to replace the bearing cuz the shaft has to come out of the transmission... thanks, doug s. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:35 pm: |
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Doug - check with one of the badweb sponsors. I know HDF is listed as one, but since I left...well.......I buy Syn3 there now (because it's silly to ship fluid) and that's about it. And if you ever need a hand with the ol' S2, drop me a note Worst case drop zac4mac a note. He's hooked me up a few times. I forget what dealer he's at - High Country, maybe? - but he takes care of us badwebbers. Also Tnxbrider / Tom Bumpus of Bumpus HD is a great guy. Got a Uly fan on the way from him as I type, actually...and I think Ft_bstrd either works there or is in there all the time as well. Or Froggy, up near Liberty...tons of options here on Badweb. And that doesn't even mention Al and Joanne at American Sport Bike, who are always awesome. Too many choices... |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:40 pm: |
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missing bearings? the shop said the bearings looked ok. where would they have gone? could they fall out completely on the ground, when being ridden? it looks to me like the bearings are still being held in place... Uhh, I'd take that thing to another shop in that case. The rollers should be all lined up right next to each other, no space in between them. That is very clearly missing MANY of them. |
Sportyeric
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 09:52 pm: |
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As to an improved pulley, the answer is yes. Your pulley is 1/2" at the spline area, Newer ones are 3/4". There is a spacer to change and the seal for it. Looks like you'll be changing the seal anyway, so the only extra cost to the newer unit is the spacer. And yes, its missing many rollers. (Message edited by Sportyeric on August 18, 2010) |
Snowbees
| Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 03:02 am: |
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When repaired its a good idea to make one of these, it replaces the seal (interference fit)and has a nipple in it. give it a regular squirt of oil/grease ,helps keep those needle rollers lubed .
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Whitetrashxb
| Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 10:32 am: |
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Spidey, you mentioned the aluminum pulley: could you notice any difference with the lighter mass? James |
Koz5150
| Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 11:42 am: |
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I had the 26 tooth aluminum pully on my M2. It was awesome, and I could totally tell the difference ridding around town. However, after 15,000 the slpines stripped out and I am back to running the 27 stock steel one. If I buy another, I will go with the 26 tooth steel version from American Sportbike. I feel that it was the reduction in teeth, not weight that made the big difference on my bike. |
Kalali
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 11:23 am: |
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"...no messed up bracket - not sure what you are seeing in the pics." Well, my bracket has tight wedges which keep the nut from much movement. Looks like you could turn that nut 1/4 turn or more before it catches the inside edge of the bracket. Given the condition of that bearing, I'm willing to bet that the shaft has quite a bit of "resistance" while turning thus causing the nut to move within the bracket, etc. And if your shop mechanic could not see that about more than a third of the rollers are missing, I suggest a new shop. Just my 2 cents. FWIW. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 12:09 pm: |
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Ahh! I see the "bracket" it's the plate that's supposed to prevent the nut from backing out. Looks like it's failed its mission! How does a thing like this happen? |
Kalali
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 02:59 pm: |
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Yup, plate is a better description than a bracket... |
Spiderman
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 03:07 pm: |
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The plate didn't fail, the sprocket nut is still there an tight the shaft bearing actually rotated out. Whitey, I didn't notice anything on that aluminium one. How much for a new drive sprocket! Moses! |
Jramsey
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 03:17 pm: |
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It's a caged needle bearing,seen better ones tossed seen much worse used.......I'd replace it. |
Kalali
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2010 - 03:25 pm: |
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I'm wondering just how did the bearing walk out like that? I'm sure it won't be a pretty site if that bearing seized up while riding down the hiway... |
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