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Highlander51
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a early 08 1125r that has 3,100 miles on it, and I keep watching for the slave to start to weep but nothing so far.
Why do some go bad and others don't? What exactly is the cause, and is it just a matter of time and they will all go bad? I have 10 months left on my warranty so I have time to get it fixed if it goes south. Is there anything that can be done to help the original slave last?
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ride it?

I have 2 '08 bikes. One has an 09 clutch cover from all the problems I had early on. The second one has been fine so far with just 08 parts, but it's a later '08 build.

Even if it goes totally sideways on you it's not a terribly hard or expensive fix, so I say don't worry about it and ride.
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Highlander51
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to worried about it, it was more a academic question. This is my play bike so if something happens it will get fixed but does not hang me up.
Just wondering why they go bad. Changing out tires today (PP 2 ct's) so I can take advantage of the cool weather here in SoCal and get some riding in. Thanks
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just a poor design on the original seals. Some leak, many don't. Ride it, if it does eventually leak, replace with the newer parts and you are good to go : )
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was told by my service manager that the original cylinder/piston would wear a grove in the cylinder and cause it to leak. That's why the fix it kit includes a new piston/cylinder, instead of just new seals.

Pull off your puck and see if it's leaking or put another 1,000 miles on it and you'll see it leak out the puck.
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1_mike
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Taylor Made (crash protection) cover hides just over half the clutch cover...!

Does this mean mine will never leak as long as the cover is in place ?

Mike
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Buellrider66
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cover will hold the fluid until it reaches the weep hole. The cover does not stop the leak.
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Bueller4ever
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Out of sight, out of mind, Mike.

Clutch performance may suffer though.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and a few just wont stay fixed...

anybody care to venture a guess as to how much force is actually being applied to the cover itself during shifting or while holding the clutch in for a light etc?
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why would you hold the clutch in for a light? There is no benefit with the cost of stressing; the hydraulic system, pressure plate spring(s), and throw-out bearing? Put it in gear as the other light goes yellow-red and yours is about to go green. This is much easier on everything. There is a hidden benefit of operating your vehicle this way, that clunk into gear usually wakes up the driver in front of you. :-)
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

m/c safety 101 danny keep it in gear. i'm not looking to be told what you think of how i ride. i am looking for the information requested.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have used up clutch cables holding it in gear at lights. Now hydraulics are surely not cables, just thinking about stress in general. Didn't mean to stress you, sorry.
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Dirty_john
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why wear out the clutch plates by keeping it in gear, I was a motorcycle instructor over here in the UK for 5 years and we always taught the pupils to select neutral when at traffic lights
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

must be something that's limited to the AMA here in the south then. every class i've ever taken and every instructor i have ever spoken to recommends keeping it in gear when at a controlled intersection.

in either case that still doesn't answer the question.

sorry for being snappy
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In gear at a light or stop sign is taught in msf classes and in class A cdl training.

If you wanna save wear on your hydraulic clutch, don't use it for up shifts.
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