| Author | Message | ||
     Gbaz |
My dealer has agreed to apply some insulation to the frame for me while he is changing my water pump seal for a small charge. So what's everyone using to insulate the frame? I have a few weeks before he has the parts, and I have the time to drop the bike off. Think I may get a set of coated headers from American Sport Bike and have him swap em out as well. Any one try the insulation blankets from spec ops on a 1125 yet? | ||
| Poppinsexz |
I got the stuff from American Sport Bike it wasn't to bad to put on even with the motor still in there. Whenever the motor gets rotated I'll redo it just so it's one piece as I had to cut it up to get it in this time. | ||
| Avalaugh |
Does this actually make a worthwhile noticeable difference though ? | ||
| Syonyk |
I just had this done (along with header wrap), and I'm not convinced it made any difference at all. The fuel was boiling just as vigorously when I got home as it normally does. | ||
| Brumbear |
screw that make em put on the cali can for free. I would insist if they say no call customer service let them order the parts and call you when they come in!!!! | ||
| Poppinsexz |
Mine still boiled when I got home but it didn't seem as bad, maybe it was just the conditions that day. I do believe that the frame while riding does stay cooler, but again it could be the conditions that day. Also I've only had one ride since the install, so time will have to tell. | ||
| 1_mike |
With my headers wrapped and the "complete" interior of the frame insulated...yes, not only have I felt a difference, the frame doesn't "seem" as hot. Though..admittedly, I haven't measured my CR's fuel temp. I do know on my Japanese bikes...I insulate the bottom of the tank...it has made a 9 degree difference on a 95 degree day. Mike | ||
| Phwx2 |
Now that the space shuttle is on its last trip maybe you can buy some use heat shields and fit them on your bike. | ||
| Gbaz |
The dealer is willing to put the canaster on but I would rather try insulating it 1st. | ||
| Gbaz |
PyrogelŪ 2250 Is what is recomend. Don't know if you can order it in small ammounts though | ||
| Theeman23_69 |
Their website (http://www.aerogel.com/products/pdf/Pyrogel_2250_D S.pdf) says 392 Fahrenheit. I don't believe it would work. I'm going with the thermotec stuff from american sportbike. It should hold up just fine. Has anyone thought of cooling the fuel in a different way, say with its own radiator? | ||
| Christiankid3 |
My dealer installed the frame insulation along with the cali can all for free. I just told them that the fuel boiled and overflowed whenever it was hot. | ||
| Poppinsexz |
The Thermotec from American Sport Bike is also only rated at 400F. | ||
| Syonyk |
So, I may have been a bit premature in my "It doesn't do anything" analysis. Apparently riding for an hour or so 2-up on the highway at 80mph into a 30-40mph headwind isn't the best test of a new insulation setup... it dumps enough heat into the bike that it doesn't *matter* what you've done to it, it's getting hot. On my way to work today, it was noticeably cooler, and when I got to work, there wasn't the normal blast furnace coming up from my exhaust headers on the right side - I have the lowers, and normally there's just a torrent of heat coming up - I could put my hand down there with no issues. So I think it does help a good bit, it's just not a miracle cure. | ||
| Hogzilla |
My bike was already insulated and the tank was still puking. Had to get the canister. No issues now. I don't think the insulation makes any major difference. Just another layer to help the problem. | ||
| Augustus74 |
For everyone with the Cali can, does this actually stop the fuel from getting so hot or does it just stop the drip??? | ||
| Petereid |
just catches the drip | ||
| Poppinsexz |
Also sends it back into the throttle bodies to be burned. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
wonder if the frames could have been jet hot coated before the inner coating was applied? that plus the stick on stuff would prolly work pretty well. course it's to late now im sure as i doubt the coating inside would tolerate the baking needed to set the jet hot material | ||
| Avc8130 |
I have both an 08 and an 09. My 08 has NEVER dripped fuel. My 09 has POURED on the floor repeatedly. I think the frame insulation can cause some issues. On short trips it may prevent the heat transfer to the frame, however, on longer trips I theorize that it becomes "heat soaked" and then hinders. It will hold the heat IN and also not allow ANY air flow up that side of the frame. I now have the carbon can. With the extra weight and lost storage I no longer SEE fuel drip. ac | ||
| Poppinsexz |
I think the real problem is the airflow from the radiators going through the frame center. I really hope Erik Buell Racing can come out with a fairing kit that will put the rads facing forward and exit the air out the side. | ||
| 1_mike |
Just a note about the OEM insulation. The three little pieces that are installed on the 09 frames...as the Brits say, bollix... I left the rear (near the fuel pump) factory piece on because it was sorta kinda, ok as is. But the two little right side pieces they were kind enough supply...a waste of time as far as I'm concerned. As far as the comment about being "heat soaked".. Possibly a small amount, but in any case, it won't "hinder" any further insulating properties it has. It just won't insulate any "better" than it's claim of the heat delta. The frames aluminum material will hold the heat no longer OR shorter with the insulation blanket on OR off. It'll just hold what is actually transfered, until it's radiated into the air (from the outside the frame airflow) and the fuel. Hell...even the black frame paint keeps SOME...heat out of the frame/tank. Just... not nearly enough..! Mike | ||
| Gbaz |
Well i guess ill use DEI or the stuff from American Sport Bike. If it does not help ill ask for the evap can to be installed. one 24X36 sheet is enough for the entire frame? |
