| Author | Message | ||
     Cataract2 |
I have wasted more time and money on this bull s*** intake design than I care to. WTF does it take to get those freaking seals to do their job? I just tried the James Intake Gasket that others on here have used and it failed to. This is bull s***!!!! | ||
| Whitexc |
Something else has to be wrong if you have been through this already. Bad mating surface, warpage, something....sorry to hear about the bad luck. | ||
| Hogs |
Must be installer error??? Are ya putting them on too tight, or not tight enough??? Or if its an alignment problem??? Or combination of... | ||
| Firebolt32 |
ESO | ||
| Wheelybueller |
Piece of cake,slow down,calm down.....Its not a hard job,you just need to pay close attention to alignment and torque and cleanliness of mating surfaces. good luck RQ | ||
| Brumbear |
make sure you have the surface clean as Wheely stated 1 little spec of old gasket and its gonna leak | ||
| Cataract2 |
Surface is clean. I'm tightening the bolts to where the bracket is bottomed out. The leak doesn't surface until the bike is around 130 C. It's on the rear jug. I took the frame off to get good access to it this time and it's still there. Sigh... I don't get it. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Ok, just a thought. Has anyone had an O2 sensor stick at the lean volt range after a certain temp? That's what mine is doing after 130 C. I'm not certain this is entirely an intake leak. Because this problem occurs after 130 C and you would think after messing with things it would change when it happens. | ||
| Glitch |
Because this problem occurs after 130 C and you would think after messing with things it would change when it happens. So, for a couple of bucks you can find out. An O2 sensor is an O2 sensor right? Go to the auto parts store... | ||
| Wheelybueller |
What is your bike doing after 130c? You may be chasing your tail.  | ||
| Terrys1980 |
You haven't used any gasket sealers or something that would contaminate the O2 sensor? | ||
| Cataract2 |
My bike is idling up to that point up to 130 C and beyond. As for gasket sealers. All have been labeled Sensor Safe. So I would assume nothing has affected it, but I'm thinking this is beyond just a leak. Also, I'm sick of messing with the intake. Anyone got a part # for an O2 sensor? | ||
| 1_mike |
Per one of the people that posts here occasionally... I had the same problem with my "R". Put new seals on two times with no proper seal. I was told to try Hylomar sealer. I've used it on cars in the past with great results, but it's been difficult to find lately. A little auto parts shop near me got me a tube. Took everything apart again, cleaned everything well. I put the Hylomar on the ID and the head surface of the seal. I also put a thin coat on the head itself. I installed the throttle body. As I was tightening the rings, I wiggled the throttle body back and forth to let the seals find their own set point. I started the engine "without" support screw in the bracket. Shut the engine off installed the support screw, but DID NOT tighten the screw until the next day. It's seems to be well sealed now. And with the Hylomar, that does NOT harden, I think things will be fine. Mike | ||
| Cataract2 |
Might try that mike. | ||
| Aptbldr |
Added step when replacing intake seals: I put very light coat of silicone-grease on bevel face of seal retaining ring. Thought being to help fit seal without it bonding/twisting to seal retaining ring as things are tightened-up. And maybe, affecting/improving how rings & seals interact during thermal-expansion cycles. So far, so good. 4k miles on replacement seals | ||
| Jramsey |
O2 sensor Bosch #12014, $20.00 local auto parts store. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Apt, I tried the grease thing as well. Didn't seem to help. Think I'm going to try the Hylomar gasket stuff as well as pick up a new O2 sensor. Bout to shotgun troubleshot this thing. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
I've never had a Buell tore down to that point and am not familliar with the Buell intake set up but on one of my other bikes, the only way to get a positive seal at the intake is to loosten the headbolts and align the heads with the intake using the tiny bit of play available in the headbolts. Just an ignorant shot in the dark and a hope that it helps. | ||
| Brumbear |
is the head temp sensor leaking I regualrly have sending units and sensors go bad and oil leaks right through them just a thought. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Why is it when you look at a parts stores website and it lists that they carry something, then you go there and they don't. What's up with that? | ||
| Cataract2 |
Ok, found the Hylomar. Advance has it. For some reason though they don't keep it on their shelves but in the back. Weird. | ||
| Hogs |
Don`t know whats so special about that stuff anyways...Good old proven Right Stuff is all ya need and may be superior to what you found as not really any setup time needed for the Right Stuff...etc Excellent bonding property... The cats meow...http://www.permatex.com/brand_right_stuff.htm Oh YEah...Myself I wd. only wet the surface with whatever product ya choose and NOT lay it on Thick...! (Message edited by hogs on April 18, 2010) | ||
| Cataract2 |
Well, looks like the Hylomar worked. Intake leak is sealed. I also replaced the O2 sensor as the wire was damaged at the base. Thinking that happened when I was removing the frame this last time, but ya never know. I ran the bike up to 220 C for the fan to come on and it never skipped a beat. | ||
| Glitch |
Extra nice! | ||
| Jcbikes |
Way to go Ryan! Very frustrating sometimes fixing a problem but when you do fix it, nothing like the feeling you get on what you just accomplished. (with of course some help from your fellow Buellers) (Message edited by jcbikes on April 18, 2010) | ||
| Cataract2 |
Of course, might take it to work to give it the full run down this week. | ||
| 1_mike |
Cataract - Good to hear your back up and running. Hogs - This Right Stuff, gasket maker is just an updated Silicone (curing) rubber sealant. The Hylomar is a non-hardening material that move with the engine parts. And in case you didn't realize...aluminum moves a lot during its heat cycles. Mike (Message edited by 1_mike on April 19, 2010) (Message edited by 1_mike on April 19, 2010) | ||
| Greg_e |
Hylomar is the $#!+ , it was the only thing that could be used on racing RX7 when you cut one of the ports so large that the water jacket O ring had to be cut. A shop down in Florida came up with that for the cars they built and raced. They were basically doubling the size of the intake port and altering the timing slightly by moving the port. What's also nice is it should come right off if you have to dig down that deep again. |
