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Johncr250
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doesn`t anyone else have a problem twisting the throttle all the way on their XB?

I always have to regrip it, and then twist all the way.

I`m gonna look around for a shorter pull throttle.
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 01:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had to do that on my Yamaha. Drives me nuts. I've test the throttle on a Buell and it's the same way so I think it has something to do with all bikes. Parents Harley's are the same way.
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Unibear12r
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 04:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heard of this but not noticed it myself.
The throttle on my XB12R rotates about 1/2 the way around the bar-same as my Sportster and KLR650 as far as I can tell.
Might be your grip position.
I've got to get different grips on the Buell & ESP. the KLR-my hands go numb.

Yep I'm wrong 1/4 turn.Sorry.

edited by unibear12r on March 30, 2004
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think most sportbikes have 1/4 turn throttles. Some aftermarket companies make a little sliver of poly that you slip into the pulley part of the throttle barrel (under the pull cable) to make a 1/5 turn (approximately) throttle. Have one on the SV; makes a refined throttle hand necessary, but also easier to get on WFO while hanging off to the left.

Henrik
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Johncr250
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe its just my wrists, getting old and don`t move like they used to.
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Bad_ass_bolt
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i would also like to see a shorter throw. if it were 50-60% of the current throw it would be perfect or me.
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Buellgator
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to see a shorter throw as well. I do the same thing I gotta wrap my hand twice to get WFO.
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would settle for about 80% of the twist I have now on a 12R. I can get to WFO from a regular position but I have to drop my elbow WAY down...
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Johncr250
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well i`m glad to see its just not me.

I have a few quick pull throttles from my MX bikes laying around. I`ll see if i can make one work.
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep in mind, that if you go crazy shortening the throw, fine adjustment of throttle will become quite difficult.

Henrik
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Johncr250
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats true, i really was just looking to short the pull maybe 1/2".

I rode a couple of other bikes last week and the XB pull is definately longer by a good amount.
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Englishman119
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I’ve got the same issue with my XB throttle travel. Its just too much. There’s been a few times where I thought the bike was not picking up like it should only to find I had to wrap my wrist further around and away she went. Trying to maintain a grip that can achieve full travel and fully closed like when squeezing the brake and blipping the gas between down shifts is a distraction I’d rather not have to deal with.

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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think, that if you mark the throttle and the switch housing and take a careful look, you'll see that we're only talking 1/4 turn throttle movement here.

I know it is on my S2 and was on the SV. I'll check the XB tonight.

1/4 turn is a good compromise between amount of movement necessary and sensitivity of the throttle. I.e. it's less likely to "jump" on you with just a small change in position. Much easier to be smooth that way.

Henrik
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Pilot
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not fit a 4 wheeler thumb throttle if you need less travel?
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Because the movement of the bar may impart input to the throttle.
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep; 1/4 turn throttle on the XB as well (as stated by Unibear above).

One thing I do to minimize wasted movement, is first to properly adjust the throttle cables .

Then, I grab (grip ? : )) the grip so that when my wrist is at neutral, the cables are taut and the motor running *just* above idle - the sweet spot where you can roll the throttle on smoothly without the motor "coughing."

I find that that allows me to use the majority of the throttle movement without shifting my grip. It's a bit easier on the SV with the 1/5 turn throttle, but for street use I find 1/4 turn to be a good compromise between movement and smoothness.

Henrik
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Slowby
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a bigger cam on the throttle grip will fix it.
like the r1 and r6 grip exchange.
not that i know about jap crap.
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