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Jimmy_in_nc
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well after having my bike parked for the better part of 2 months, I finally got it out yesterday and enjoyed some pretty weather. End of last season I had an intermittent problem of the bike not wanting to idle all the way down to 1000-1100 rpm at a stop light. When it will not idle down if I ease out on the clutch in low gear and pull the motor down to idle... it will stay there and run fine. Trying to figure when the problem happens for the last 7-8 months and it doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason. Any suggestions? A TPS reset was performed after this problem started with no change. I have cleaned the intake tract. No change. It does not bother me that much... just wonder why.

Jimmy
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Snowscum
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Intake seals.......
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Jimmy_in_nc
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Snowscum-

I see you've done the intake seals twice on your bike. Was this one of the symptoms that you were correcting?

Jimmy
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Probably what you are experiencing is from the idle set too high. On a lot of the bikes 1050 rpm will get a "float down" of the idle. Usually setting it around 1000 rpm will fix it.

You can also check the right side of the throttle body for a little rubber plug on a vacuum port. A backfire can blow it off giving you a vacuum leak.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on Vern's post. I get my TPS reset at services, and it always "floats" down. So, I get home and turn it down one nudge (scientific term).

Although, in the cold weather we're having I did bump it back up just a hair. Seems happier, at least in sub-freezing temps.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine idled at 2000 rpm the other morning. I had been riding a few miles at 10 degrees out. I stopped at an intersection and found the throttle body froze.
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Jimmy_in_nc
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all of the suggestions. Didn't get to pull the air box and check for the vacuum cap tonight as I was busy stuffing the rear wheel back under it. Maybe I'll check that tomorrow evening. I'll post back if I find a cure to it.

Guess it's time to get a cable to use ECM spy and do my own TPS reset also.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Intake seals......."
+1

Spray some brake cleaner at the intake manifold with the bike idling. If the engine revs, you found your problem.
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Snowscum
Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both times it was the intake seals. It would do it when it got hot the last time i put new ones in. Someone got a link to the blue ones from dennis kirk? I put those in the last time and havent had a problem since. I think its a pain the arse to install as well.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had an idle problem also, but sometimes it's high (and fluctuating 200-300 rpm) or low enough to stall it.

The dealer figured it had to be intake seals too, with 38,000 miles. Even changed them. - "No charge, since that didn't do it"

That was months ago, and it's still not fixed, courtesy of the Back-Ordered part Syndrome.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used the blue "James" gaskets I believe they're called. Ordered from Dennis Kirk. They leaked within 500 miles but that may have been due to me installing them dry. (This was all on an X1 btw, I've never done intake gaskets on the XT) After the James gaskets, I tried installing OEM gaskets with some assembly lube applied and they're still working fine about 7000 miles later. I think making the gaskets slick allows them to seat perfectly instead of getting pinched in any way when the intake manifold flanges are tightened.
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Jimmy_in_nc
Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Vacuum cap is on.. so when the weather breaks again I'll try nudging down the idle speed a "nudge". Until then I've just to scuff in the new rear and enjoy the spring.. if it will get here.

Thanks for the insight and suggestions, if I find a cure I will post it up.

Jimmy
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Swampy
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try cleaning the battery connections and all the grounds. I'm here to tell you I was one of the guys that thought, yeah, I will try it when I have problems. I had problems, all sorts of wierd stuff was happening, I kept dismissing it as I will wait and see what happens. Well I was on my way to the last ride and when I met up with the guy I was riding out with, he encouraged me to clean it up right then and there, installing vibration proof lock washers, and it fixed all the wierd problems I was having!
So try that first. There are so many different metals in the equation, a little bit of moisture, and a little bit of voltage and viola! You get corrosion!
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