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Mountainstorm
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Acetal homopolymer has the highest fatigue endurance of any unfilled commercial thermoplastic. Under completely reversed tensile and compressive stress, and with 100% relative humidity (at 73 °F), fatigue endurance limit is 4,500 psi at 10 (to the sixth power) cycles. Resistance to creep is excellent. Moisture, lubricants, and solvents including gasoline and gasohol have little effect on this property, which is important in parts incorporating self-threading screws or interference fits.

http://plastics.dupont.com/plastics/dsheets/delrin /DELRIN100STBK602.pdf
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Blackflash
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

delrin or polyurethane
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Musclecargod
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Use UHMWPe. Great wear resistance. Thats what I will be using.
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Pittsburgh_guy
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just my 2-cents, but vacuum infusion - Carbon fiber with a Kevlar backing seems it would be the strongest and lightest. It's not that hard to create a mold from a piece that already exists(Layer on top of the case where wanted to gain the plug, then use the plug to create your mold). 3 layers of each, probably wouldn't even weigh 1 lb and would be strong enough to stand on, and I'm one heavy guy.
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skully, I am also interested in a set for that price.

(Message edited by rpm4x4 on February 18, 2010)
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Musclecargod
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pittsburgh guy, check out the kevlar/carbon hybrid twill fabrics. You can get lots of different color combinations. Those materials would really look good.
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Skully
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an extensive background with designing and fabricating composite parts and tooling (fiberglass, Kevlar, and carbon fiber using wet lay up, resin infusion, and prepreg) I REALLY don't want to go this route.

First, tooling will have to be designed and fabricated, then each part has to be had layed up and the parts will need to have holes and other features machined into them.

I would have charge a lot for those as well (meaning $200/set won't be enough). The majority seem to want at least a half cover made of aluminum. This is the direction that I'll go.

Keith
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99buellx1
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sweet!!

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Skully
Posted on Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS Does anyone have a photo of an 1125 with the Buell or aftermarket side and lower body work? Will case savers interfere with said body work?

Thanks,
Keith
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Don't have a shot of the other side for some reason but the fairing does go over the engine cover somewhat more on the left
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Eece_ret
Posted on Friday, February 19, 2010 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...sexy
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Skully
Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mountain,

Thanks for the pic. How much room is there between the fairing and the case?

Also, would you guys post photos of cases damaged during crashes? It would really help guide the design.

Thanks,
Keith
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Vtwinbuell
Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

15-20mph high side Rev A cover with stock plastic puck. The case was ground down about 1/8 of an inch.
case1

case2
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Blackflash
Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much are the stock case covers?
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Vtwinbuell
Posted on Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much are the stock case covers?

About $300 for the clutch cover.
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Skully
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do we have any additional photos of damaged cases?

Thanks,
Keith
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/385216.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/499186.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/435521.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/454612.html

the worst for last
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/385216.html

(Message edited by nillaice on February 22, 2010)
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mine is a little less worse than this one
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/425156.html
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Sparropie
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 04:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both sides of my 1125 look like the pics above. From 4 mph cold-tire slides. I'm in. $250. - $300. a set?
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 05:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine looks like Nillaice, from about a 20mph lowside.
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take a shot as soon as it get's light out. I went down at about 5 mph on theleft without the side fairings and it scratches the hell out of the case and the oil cooler line. Clearance is tight between case and fairing. Maybe a 1/4" on the area that overlaps. But the fairing is a little flexible there.
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine nicked up the puck pretty good, but nothing more, other than the pod cover.

would be cool to have something that would protect the cases more. REx
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Skully
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys.

Mountain - I'd appreciate a photo of the damage to the oil lines.

Thanks,
Keith
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Wastegate
Posted on Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Count me in when you start production.
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me too!

I was very happy with my axle sliders/spools and I'm sure you wont disappoint with the case savers!
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Mooch
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here is mine...
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/538307.html?1266374191
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Skully
Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nillaice - thanks for the links BTW. We are studying the photos.

Is it common for the case pucks to get ripped off in a crash?

Keith
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Steve899
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skully , Engine Sliders for the 1125R???
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Xtreme6669
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve, yea... the R and the CR use the same set up.
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A_s_r
Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Everyone,

I am helping Keith out with the design of the case savers, and I need someone that has a REV A Clutch Cover to take a few measurements for me.









Length B is from the top of the clutch cover screw head.

Thanks!
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