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Renzo750
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 12:00 pm: | 
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Looking for a TZ250?
Here's one in Virgina
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Duphuckincati
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:04 pm: |
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Gas, you're feeling the same sensation I am, and I have to wonder if the steep rake is the cause of that. I'm not dissing the Buell, just observing. By comparison, I run my old beater 900SS Ducati through some corners and I get a sensation like something that you're favorite girlfriend does for you... |
Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:16 pm: |
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People who are used to more sluggish handling will find any Buell to seem "nervous" in comparison. The Buells are extremely responsive, sharp handling motorcycles. Learn how setup and ride a the bike and the reward will be significant. |
Renzo750
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:07 pm: |
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Keeping a "light hand" is very inportant..It is allot in what you ride most...I've had a number of quick handlers over the years, but after I got a new V-Strom I did not ride my Ducati for a few months...I jumped on the Paso and almost couldn't keep it in the lane as I had got very "lazy" on the V-Strom. I had an '02 Speed Triple that was tons of fun, but if you had a tight hand on the bars it would slap all over the place.
Soft Hands and Smooth inputs = FAST! |
Mickeyq
| | Posted on Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:22 pm: |
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Smooth imputs--you are spot on! Watch any champion and they look like they are cruising on a Sunday ride. Total throttle control. |
Gas
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 10:24 am: |
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"Learn how setup and ride a the bike and the reward will be significant"
Well said.
I am forcing the countersteer at low speeds, and any road irregularity makes things worse. A "light hand" under these circumstances would result in a highside.
..But I know what you are saying.
My steep RD350 race bike required mucho finesse. Too bad I didn't have much.
Zacks, many others report good handling with the OEM tires, so maybe our bikes have a setup difficulty or something that your Avon tires corrected.
Anyway, I am still playing with the settings. Maybe some day I will have a bike that handles as well as my SV with it's upgraded rear suspension and tweaked stocker front end. I know about the "girlfriend feeling", Duphuckincati.
I just though the Buell should handle better than a massaged Suzuki econobike. |
Blake
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 02:37 pm: |
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Best bet is to start with the recommended settings. Be certain you are doing them correctly. Check tire air pressure.
Seems some are more interested in badmouthing their Buell than finding resolution to their handling issues.
Most all the numerous magazine tests of the 1125 are very complimentary of the bikes' handling, very complimentary in fact.
Suggest you cease the juvenile derision and focus on a little detailed diagnosis. I have the feeling that you don't really know what you are doing when it comes to suspension setup.
Start with the recommended baseline; change one setting at a time per the Buell suspension tuning instructions.
If nothing noticeable changes as claimed above by one of you, then the problem isn't the bike, I can guarantee that. |
Renzo750
| | Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 - 03:39 pm: |
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Shortly after the Firebolt XB9R came out UK's Bike magazine declared it the best handling street bike of all time. I don't think Eric forgot how to make'm work when he did the 1125  |
Gas
| | Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 09:21 am: |
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Blake, perhaps you should take some courses in reading comprehension. |
Mickeyq
| | Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 09:41 am: |
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My first impression with my 1125R was how great it handles. I found it stable and extremely easy to jam through any type of corner--sweepers, increasing radius, especially the transition from one side to the other. Last bikes ridden to compare to were KTM RC8 and SuperDuke--no slouches there--and the 1125 felt as good or better. You have to get familiar with the way she works and then everything flows. |
Zacks
| | Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 10:30 am: |
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After adjusting all the setting on the XB - yes, methodically since I am after all an engineer - I just figured it was going to be a little more twitchy than your typical oriental I4. No biggy, just need to change driving style a little. Not saying bad things, just saying I had a little lack of confidence in the front end. Then the Avon's and Heli-bars and it's completely changed. I put that down to a different profile of the tire as well as taking some weight off the hands giving me a lighter touch.
Now, the 1125 has the same (to me) slight vagueness I noticed on the XB. Again, I put it down more to riding position. That's why I'm ordering up some bars from Al. And as I sit here 3 months after my last ride, there's probably a little to do with throttle pickup as well. That needs to be a little more progressive. It's why I'm reading with interest the reports on the race ECM.
OTOH, I only have 800 miles on it, all in late Oct and early Nov in WI where there was frost on the roads in the AM, wet leaves in the corner all day etc and we all know what a beast these can be. Back in the day when I sold bikes, we noticed that over 1/2 of the people who bought one tossed it down the road in the first year regardless of riding experience. SO, new bike, wet/crappy road conditions, and a working realization that the odds of tossing my shiny new toy keeps things well in the 8/10ths range. |
Lastonetherebuys
| | Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 11:14 am: |
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Blake, perhaps you should take some courses in reading comprehension
I'm sorry this isn't english class its a effing forum. Get the point across and who really cares about the grammar |
Family_buells
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 09:06 am: |
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Zack, did you measure the difference in ride height between the two different tires and adjust for that when you made the switch? If you didn't then you can"t just chalk it up to the tire profile.
I changed tires on my SV racebike and found that I had to keep slight pressure on the inside bar to get it hold my line while finishing off turns. Less than a 5mm drop of the triples and I got it back to finishing off the turns without extra input.
My point is if that is the case with the SV (which is not known as a bike that is sensitive to geometry changes) then the 1125R will be even more so. |
Zacks
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:29 am: |
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Nope - didin't measure the difference in ride height.
2 reasons: 1) The rear was down to cords and the front was pretty knackered as well. Wouldn't have been a meaningful data point compared to fresh, new, full depth rubber. and 2) Didn't think of it  |
Family_buells
| | Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 01:34 pm: |
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Lastonethere,
Just wanted to point out that comprehension is not the same as grammar. |
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