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Stoobr2
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just got off the phone to Matt @ Trojan-Horse here in the UK,he is expecting a delivery of Front "wave" rotors for XB's made by the Italian company "Braking" I reckon it'll be a rather neat addition to my rear Razor rotor.

XB "Braking" wave rotor
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Fdl3
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anything wrong with your existing front rotor? *hint hint*
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want a titanium front rotor... I don't care what it looks like.
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Bud
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i would like something like this

if only i could spare the cash

gr,b

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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bud, where'd you find that - and is it Buell specific?

Henrik
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Boulderbiker
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

suit yourself, I'll take my ZTL anyday...
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stoobr2, any idea on the cost of the new rotor?
How much was your rear?
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boulder - Agreed. Low unsprung weight is the king : ). I believe it was Hals that said they don't give up any outright stopping power with the ZTL, but that they may have been up against a fade issue on the race track. I think that would be (and probably already is) solved by different material though.

I wonder if there's enough weight savings with Ti rotors to make it feasible to go to a dual ZTL setup? That would be real nice if you could do that and still maintain the low weight of the ZTL setup. Maybe some sort of light weight calipers would be required as well. It would be an extremely touchy brake setup though. The initial bite of the ZTL system as it is kicks ass...

I wonder about Carbon Fiber rotors? Don't most really high profile race cars use CF rotors? I think they glow at a lower temp too : ). That would be really cool to see : ).
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Boulderbiker
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah problems with carbon is they they're hydrophilic (soak water) so no good in wet and have to be HOT before they're worth anything for stopping, so only useful at the track when warmed up.

Does someone make a ti rotor, and does it actually work? never heard of ti in that application, although admittedly never looked for it either.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know someone makes a ti rear rotor... I had a friend that worked a plasma cutter at Ruger who cut ti rotors for other companies...
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Bud
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hendrik,


http://www.freespirits.it/undercategoriesusers.asp?IdSottocategoria=9&cat=BUELL+ KIT

matt ( Trojan-Horse Products ) is there dealer

gr,b
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Henrik
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the link Bud. Sweet set-up (I'm shopping for S2 brakes), but the price =:0 Dang!

And the translations are hysterical - click on the picture, and you'll get both a larger picture and a computer translation "The Vodka is good but the meat is rotten" : D

Henrik

edited by henrik on April 07, 2004

edited by henrik on April 07, 2004
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Stoobr2
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 02:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch the "Braking" wave rotor is cheaper than the OE replacement from Buell I think Matt does them for £107GBP + shipping (the original is about £170 here in the UK).
Matt also sells the Razor Rotor kits aswell

Fdl3, the front XB rotors have been know to warp under extreme conditions,hopefully the "Braking" version will aid cooling,thus prevent warpage + it's looks the mutts.
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Bad_ass_bolt
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 03:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

matt sells a razor rotor for front too?
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Stoobr2
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No! unfortunatly a front Razor version is not avalible (Yet!) but discussions are on going with a UK brake manufacturing company about the possibility of having a XB front version made up.
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The wave front rotors should make the front run cooler than the stock setup, whilst at the same time offering better braking performance. They should be used with sintered pads, unless you want to change pads every couple of hundred miles!

We found when racing last year that we would run out of brakes due to overheating in around 5 laps on our British short circuits. The answer was the radial Brembo kit and that absolutely transformed the bike!
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Jmartz
Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trojan,

for those of us that have the mechanical speedo drive, would this system eliminate the speedometer function?
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a seperate kit available for the Tube framers although you would probably have to convert to electonic speedo drive I think.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There absolutely has to be a better solution than adding all that unsprung weight.
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Stoobr2
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 03:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well my front "wave" rotor has turned-up & been fitted.I have'nt had a chance to realy use it yet as i'm letting it bed in slowly,Initially if feels good,works well and.......I think it looks prettier than the OE version + it makes a loverly sound when braking,bit like BBBBBBrrrrrrr.

I do have some photo's of the disc fitted,anyone fancy reducing them in size so they can be posted up as I can't figure out my editing software. Or you can e-mail me directly and I'll send them by return.

Stoo.
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