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Dragonbolt
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know of the power commander model and model number that will work with a XB9 and if any maps are available. My local tuner can't find anything in his books.
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Dyna
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wont do you any good. Havent heard of any positive remarks regarding the pc & the XB combo.
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Easyflier
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

83803-211 BUELL X1 Lightning

You'll want a shop that can create a map for you though, and like Dyna said, it might not give you any real gains without other motor work.
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Dragonbolt
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am putting a Latus or Jardine on now and plan on a nallin 1050 kit and maybe some head work at the end of the season.
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could always put a carb on it - talk to Dave from Waterloo about his.
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Dyna
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a lot more work than the rest of us are up for. The carb install that is.
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Easyflier
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the 1050 kit and the headwork you would probably benefit from a PC, but you will need a good shop that will map it for you. You might want to wait until after the motor work and see if a better product specifically for the XB hits the market.
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Dragonbolt
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed that the power commander pcIII is being discontinued and I can pick one up for less than $100. K&N doesn't seem to interested in Buells as they are in Jap inline fours. They won't even sell you an air or oil filter.
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

K&N apparently has an agreement with Buell to produce the filters in the race kit - thus, they probably have as part of that agreement a clause that they cannot sell those filters except through Buell/HD for a certain amount of time.
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Misato
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ya get the K&N from the dealer.. 100 for a PCIII is good. finding a good shop to tune it will be the problem. a fellow badwebber sent me his map made by fast by feracci, and I loaded it. BIG difference from the map that came with it from NRHS. the nallin map made 78hp, FORCE claims to have my pipe done in a week and then I will dyno it again with the feracci map.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did it make more or less power with the Feracci map? Just curious.
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Misato
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I havent dyno'd it with the map but racing an S1 it was WAY better than before..
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Noface
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Misato, can you email me that map?

Thanks,
jody
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Bucknut
Posted on Friday, March 19, 2004 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My map from Ferracci is being passed around like a $2 whore
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Noface
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea baby!

He hasn't sent it yet. Maybe he didn't read this post?

Will you send me a copy?
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


just read it..
I havent sent it to anyone but if bucknut doesn't mind..?
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

application/octet-streamferacci
Ferracci.map (0.7 k)
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What hardware is this map tuned to?
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

power commander III with the hipo O2
force pipe & baffle
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Buellgator
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will this work better for my PC here in Florida?
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the map that nallin put on it, but that was way off for my bike..??
I loaded this and MUCH better..

isn't cycle rama down there? have them tune a custom map
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Bucknut
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellgator, where the map was done in PA is damn near close to sea-level, so I think it would work fine in sunny Florida - assuming the bike's mods were the same. I believe Misato had it right as far as the mods. I wish Misato would dyno his to see what gains he got over the Nallin crap-map.
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Misato
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SOON!!!!!!!!!!
I wish I could dyno the MOTHERF*&ER
no pipe=no bike, sense NOV 03... they (force) said to look for my pipe this week in the mail... nice to pay for a loan and insurance for 5 months on a bike you dont have, plus now its out of warranty -anyway, thats a different thread..
I even have a free dyno run waiting for me
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Misato, have they told you how many pipes they made for replacements?

L8R, JM
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Misato
Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no, but he said that they had 27 of the gen I pipes out there.
as soon as I see it I will post. but I'm not holding my breath
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Noface
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Misato and Bucknut!

I haven't got a Force pipe, but I figure this is a better starting point than an X1 map...

we'll see.
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Noface
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Misato, you sure that's the right file? The file extension is .unk

wtf is that I wonder?

If I rename the file to *.map, I can open it with the Dynojet software, but it's got a lot of junk in the other tables. Plus, whe I zero them, the software takes a dump, and crashes. It looks like the numbers are ok on the aap table.

Confused...
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Noface
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

also, just to be sure, this is for use with a stock ecm, correct?

thanks!
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Misato
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes stock ecm.
hmm, dont know about the ext.
I will also put it on my server(give me a minute or 2)

www.xb9s.com/map
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Misato
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

also, do u have the latest ver of the software?
the one on the cd is old
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

snatches a copy for his files...cause you just never damn know Thanks!
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Misato
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and thanks to bucknut!
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Xb9
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice Map! Feels like I gained about 5HP throughout, pulls nice & runs clean.
I've been running the PCIII with just the button adjustments. That was an improvement but this map makes an even greater improvement over that.
Mods I have are:
K&N filter
Latus Muffler
(stock ECM)
PCIII w/HiPo O2 sensor
Will be installing the XB12 airbox lid soon.

Thanks Bucknut!!!!! : )
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Misato
Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah, I haven't dyno'd it yet but I could feel the difference

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Jasonblue
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could some one give me a ballpark figure for an O2 sensor and a PCIII? Can you run a PowerCommander with a race ECM? Thanx
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Creepingmee
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 02:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi,

I have been reading the board for the last year
and have not felt like I had to post before but
I was changing the plugs in the xb9r with the
race kit and 12r air box installed. The plugs
had too much white powder indicating it runs a bit
lean... Would a power commander or techlusion box help!?! If the plugs look lean like this I know the bike isn't making as much power as it could.

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks

-Marc
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Frank_sinatra_1
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 05:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lean is one thing OILY is another, You might just need some tuning done and check for any gasket or air leaks. More gas and a proper fuel mix will give you a better boom. Throwing money at a problem sometimes doesn't make it go away. It can multiply and give more headaches. Work with what you have first, then change it if you have to.
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Easyflier
Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A PCIII or Techlusion box will fatten up the mixture, but like Frank said, look for an air leak or other causes first.

You can get it run up on a dyno with an air sniffer and see what it's doing also. If you checked the plugs after a long period of idling it can be deceptive too.

To answer the original question, you can get a PCIII and Hipo O2 sensor for between $180-429, depends on how you shop.
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Vettex1
Posted on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will this map work on a 2000 X1, with Force Pipe, Hi-Performance O2 sensor and K&N with stock ECM? If not do you know of anyone that has a map that matches that set up.
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