| Author | Message | ||
     Srwitt |
 First 10 seconds is where the action is. Got charged with reckless, took a deal of inattentive, $300, no jail no probation. Could have been up to $1000, up to a year in jail. | ||
| Augustus74 |
Thats you? How'd you get the video? Why did you toss your key?!?!?! | ||
| Delta_one |
a lot of guys toss the key when pulled over on a bike. It is very common for police to ask it of repeat speeding offenders or others that they suspect may run (nearly any sport bike rider is a suspect for that regardless of record) I have also seen it for suspected DWI's. some guys that get it a lot, or just know about it, will toss the keys right away to show that they will not be running. | ||
| Augustus74 |
He tossed the key before the cop even got to him. Ummmm....why not just get off the bike??? And take off your helmet?? (Message edited by Augustus74 on December 25, 2009) | ||
| Delta_one |
by the way if it is you that is sure one way to man up about it!  its one thing to own the mistake but putting it out there takes some real stones and in my opinion class. thanks for showing us what not to do so we could learn from your mistake.  you my friend rock! | ||
| Delta_one |
because a cop would prefer the keys on the ground. I did security forces (auggie doggie) and it only takes a few seconds to get on a bike and fire it up. and most criminals when they are running from the police, a ticket for a helmet is the least of their worries. | ||
| Boney95 |
Throwing the key doesn't make sense to me either. Just get off the bike. | ||
| Boney95 |
If someone wanted to run from the police they wouldn't stop/pull over. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Police don't like you getting off the vehicle or moving too much. They're trained to see that as aggressive and I can see why. Inattentive, that's an interesting charge. I don't know if we have that here. I think reckless cover both being silly and in control or losing control. Our reckless has a brutal penalty as well but some police are not pushing it since it has lost a (Canadian) constitutional challenge in one case: it has no bona fide "oops" defense and the police must impose heavy sentence without a trial. They're only using it in obvious cases for now. Looks like you did right, minimize the damage and move on. | ||
| Jraice |
That little thing? Man I better stop throttling up in 1st  . | ||
| Court |
>>>>because a cop would prefer the keys on the ground. I got nailed, in the car, in Manhattan several weeks ago and by the time the cop got out of their car I had ALL the interior lights off and both arms hanging ALL the way out the window, both hands clearly in sight, holding the keys in one hand and registration and insurance (from over the visor) in the other. Smart move. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
One of mine, years ago, had the cop shouting to leave everything running and don't touch the dash. Seems I was driving behind him with my high beams on. He did a dogfight loop through a parking lot, came up behind me and pulled me over. He wanted to see if my high indicator worked. It didn't. He was about to write a ticket when I tapped over the indicator light and it came on. It frustrated him but no ticket. Old school tech, that would be $3G to repair now. | ||
| Srwitt |
Augustus, when you must appear in court, you are entitled to copys of all evidence that may be presented against you. All it takes in most states is a short hand written letter filed with the prosecutors office within so many days before court. All I had to do was write a short 2 sentence letter with the case # requesting all evidence including video, audio, and the sworn statement, and give it to the prosecutors office with a blank CD and they made copys for me. I threw the key to show I wouldn't run, how many times watching worlds scariest chases has a bike stopped, only to take off again because its actually stolen. It can be viewed as an act of aggression to get off of the bike/out of a car unless asked to, that and I don't want a trigger happy cop giving me lead poisoning for just getting off my bike. He specifically told me to stay on the bike when he went back to his car to write me up. | ||
| Augustus74 |
I figure if a bikes stolen - there ain't no key anyhow! Never heard to stay on the bike, gotta remember that. I dont always have my paperwork on my person and would have to open the trunk?? Guess I would wait till asked to do so huh? | ||
| Froggy |
Hmm I have never stayed on the bike before. Usually I have enough time to slowly get off the bike and take off helmet/plugs/gloves before the officer comes up to me. | ||
| Srwitt |
Best thing is to wait for the officers commands, they want to feel in control of the situation. If you have to move to get your paperwork, tell them that when they ask. It doesn't help much in my area that we get a lot of rookies do to a high turnover, they start here in this area, get some experience, then move on to a bigger/better paying city. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
although i'm glad i don't know how to wheely that good, i tend to have a lead wrist at times. coming back from checking on a job up in gainesville, coming around a curve on 75 coming around a semi i spot the trooper with his laser or what ever it was out and knew he had me dead to rights. immediately pulled over. i don't think he had to move 50 feet and let me go with a warning. last ticket i got a few years ago, i wasn't so lucky. got me on labor day weekend doing 101 in a 70. | ||
| Tailspining |
Neil, How about the time we where riding on Highway 11 just after turn off 178? We got up to 80 mph and the cop on the right of the road hit his lights and we pulled over and waited for him... but he never showed.  | ||
| Roysbuell |
In Chicago every single stop was a felony stop. Take keys out of the ignition hold them out the window showing both hands. First time I got pulled over here in deep south Texas. I did the normal hang the keys out the window and the police officer drew his gun walked up and asked me what I was doing. I told him this was standard in Chicago. He said relax step out of the car. He let me sit in the cruiser in the front seat while he ran my license. Didn't even get a ticket that time. | ||
| Fast1075 |
In Florida, that little wheelie would have cost $500.00 for the wheelie ticket, most likely a ticket for Reckless Driving (which can carry jail time if the cop wants to tack on "willful and wanton" to the end, court costs and a 6 month suspension of drivers license. Now days I only wheelie on private property  and Jezebel likes to wheelie  . A few weeks ago I got pulled over and scolded by a cop for "aggressive" riding. I was exiting a corner at a "good clip " and the cop was coming the other way...I was sorta hanging off and maybe drifting a little bit (it is a most excellent sweeper)...he turned around and pulled me over, checked my license/insurance, etc...ran a report (clean of course...no tickets or such for well over 10 years)...he sent me away with a verbal warning...he said "I would think that a man your age would ride sensibly". I thanked him and took off (this means he had no verifiable way of proving my little stunt in court aside from my word against his). I'm glad he hadn't been parked with his speed detection gear on...I would have been screwed...I WAS haulingass. |
