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Mikezx9r
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed my cooling fan(s) come on at approximately 170 degrees. Why do they come on at that low of a temp? Im going to take a guess that because of a high compression ratio, they need to keep the coolant temp as low as possible to avoid detonation?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only time I can "notice" my fans is if the bike is sitting still. My guess is, they reference vehicle speed - like the Uly comfort kit flash does - and fire the fans to get airflow across the radiators. They may come on when the bike is moving...but I haven't heard 'em yet.
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Mikezx9r
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same here. I cant tell if they are on when Im moving, but at idle, they start up at about 170 degrees.
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Avc8130
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The electrical service manual says the fans are on constantly after 170 degree coolant temperature is reached.
ac
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99buellx1
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotta have a supply of lower temp coolant just incase the motor needs it, dosn't necessarily mean that the thermostat is open and circulating at 100%.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The fans come on and run backward to blow the hot are out the front of the bike. Bend down and feel all the hot air being pushed AWAY from the bike when you are sitting idle.

It's a good thing!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thermostat opens at 157-162, fans come on at 172.
Thermostat "locks" at ~182.
Fans come on at 77C, ~171 dF.
Fans will turn off when CT falls below 160.
If the key is off, fans will come on at 189 and run until CT drops below 167.

Note this is from an early 08 FSM, anyone with a newer version see if the numbers are the same.

Zack
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Pwillikers
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really? The fans run backwards at when the bike is not moving? Then what? They stop and reverse direction when the bike begins to move?
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Moosestang
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really? The fans run backwards at when the bike is not moving? Then what? They stop and reverse direction when the bike begins to move?

Yeah, it would seem like a waste of power for the fans to run all the time. They aren't doing any good at 70mph.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The fans do NOT change direction.
They only turn one direction and blow thru the rads to the inboard.

When you're stopped, you will feel the warmth in front.
When moving, they push the hot air to the center of the bike and it is ducted thru the frame and out the back over the tire.

The fans DO run at 70 mph if the temp is high enough.

While you're riding, see if CT is above 170, hold your hand under the seat/tail section, VERY warm air...

Zack
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Cherry_bomb
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here's a scan of the cooling-system chapter from the service manual:

http://www.file-upload.net/download-2022561/Coolin g-System.tiff.html

i think there's a few changes with the tresholds made over the last few flashes...
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