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Skntpig
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 07:53 am: |
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My dealer has both. I have an S1 now and love it. I was immediately drawn to the CR. How much different is the ride with the full fairing of the R? My dad, a FLHT Shovelhead rider said "Why don't you get a bagger, you already have a bar hopper". Translated...Get the R instead of the CR. I probably won't do many track days with it. I still have a 600 Honda in superbike trim. I don't plan on taking more than a 300 mile ride in a day. Any thoughts from folks that rode or owned them both? |
Avc8130
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:08 am: |
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I own them both. I like the CR gearing better for the street. I like the R fairing better on the highway for longer periods of time. ac |
Jdugger
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:20 am: |
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From my perspective, even if you plan to do track days, the CR/R debate isn't important. It's the wind protection for a longer ride or when top speed is important that gives the 'r' the nod. It's also easier to mount/hide a GPS and radar detector on the 'r'. But really, neither should matter if you are making mostly shorter trips. And, the CR has more useful real-world gearing and you can install a high bar without it looking like you put a huffy bar on the bike. |
Skntpig
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:24 am: |
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Is the gearing just a front or rear spocket? I would prefer the shorter gearing. I like curves vs. top speed runs. I'm just thinking of the few times a year trip to the keys or Daytona for the added wind protection. I live in SW Florida. |
Dmhines
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:26 am: |
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The other benefit to the CR is choice of HIGHBAR or CLUBMAN. |
Moosestang
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:37 am: |
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The gearing difference is a longer belt, larger rear sprocket and a longer swingarm. This is all stuff I read in older posts, so not sure if it's all accurate. |
03firebolt9r
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 08:56 am: |
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I know that the R has a 70 tooth rear pulley/sprocket and the CR has a 76 tooth. That of course means the belt will be longer for the CR and lower geared. As far as the swingarm, I am not sure if it is longer on the CR. I know that the specs say that the CR is 80.7 inches long whereas the R is 80.3 in. I assume they had to get the extra length from somewhere, so maybe it is in the swingarm. Also the seat height is 32.7 on the CR versus 31.9 on the R. |
03firebolt9r
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:01 am: |
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Just to clarify, the above seat height specs are from the 2010's. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:07 am: |
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From what I gathered looking up parts, the difference is: rear sprocket tensioner bracket swingarm to clear the HUGE sprocket Front sprocket/pulley is the same, and I believe the belt is the same...hence the different tensioner bracket. I'll doublecheck tomorrow at work. As noted, the CR is geared lower (11%) than the R. I went CR for that reason. That, and (also an S1W owner) I like the naked bike. The R is not a bad bike, not at all...but I just prefer the shorter gearing for 'round town jaunts. If I decide I want taller gearing, it's MUCH easier to make a CR taller-geared than an R shorter. |
Avc8130
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:12 am: |
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The belts are DEFINITELY different. There was 1 guy who claimed to use the stock R swingarm with the CR rear pulley and belt. ac |
03firebolt9r
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:15 am: |
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Belt on the R is 145 tooth, the belt on the CR is 149 tooth. |
Milleniumx1
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:45 am: |
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I liked the looks of the R over the CR, but wouldn't be too upset to have the shorter CR final drive ratio. Just buy what appeals to you ... That's always a good rule to follow. Mike |
Swamp2
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:11 am: |
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One thing to consider - check your insurance. I have Progressive in NY - the CR is significantly less to insure than the R. They evidently classify the 2 models differently. I'm not sure exactly why, but since I'm getting a CR I'm not about to argue with them... |
Fmaxwell
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:25 am: |
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Progressive in VA also charges more for the R. I went with the CR and the higher street fighter style optional bars, giving me a riding position a lot closer to my XB12Ss. Really comfortable. Higher seating position gives better visibility. Wider bars make it steer like a supermoto bike. I have zero regrets. I always thought that the 1125R was geared too high, anyway. I like the more brutal acceleration on the CR. |
Tbenson
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:36 am: |
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I bought the R, I wanted the CR, if I bought the CR, I would have wanted the R. I know not very helpful. I chose the R for the fairing, and seating position and/or height of the seat (stationary position). If I could have rode the two back to back for a test ride I would have probably chose the CR instead of the R? |
Cme2c
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:32 am: |
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Very simple. The CR looks hot and mean, the R looks ugly. You decide. ;-P |
Chadhargis
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:38 am: |
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I rode the two back to back, and surprisingly, the CR felt like a completely different bike. Ride both and then decide. |
1324
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:20 pm: |
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I bought the R over the CR for a couple reasons. I already had a streetfighter (XB12S), and the fairing/headlights. The wind protection is nice in the cool weather, and the headlights are the best I've used on a bike. Not sure how the R's compare to CR honestly, but the R packs another 30 watts of useful lighting. If I didn't have the XB12 already, I'd probably buy the CR because I prefer naked bikes. Shorter gearing on the CR would be nice, but both are overkill for the street in my opinion. The R is just waaay overkill, lol. |
Chessm
| Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:43 pm: |
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get the r. I have when other people have my bike |
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