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Blake
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is absolutely wonderful, a MUST SEE!


Video provided by www.OnTheThrottle.tv


Thanks Richie for the heads-up and thanks for being such a class act!
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20buellteam
Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 02:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All I can say is ....what a Class Act!
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Bigschwerm
Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All I can say is ....what a Class Act!

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Chadhargis
Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really wish someone would have said something about the much talked about "unfair advantage".

It's clear that the championship was won with hard work and dedication by a great team. I could just spit tacks when I hear someone say, Buells were given an unfair advantage.
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Tbenson
Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Every team that wins the Championship has an "unfair advantage", the hard work, rider, team, support, money, machine, etc.,
is it not what formulates into winning a Championship?
The issue about 1125cc and 600cc, well that is a significant advantage, but useless without the skill to make it outperform the rest.
It would seem, anyone on the 1125 side of the argument, can see the "unfair advantage", or they just merely admitted the 1125R to be a 600 with 1125 badges?
I personally do not see my 1125R to be comparable to a 600 of any make, so I see the "unfair advantage"!
If Buell was to win the Superbike Championship, the same thing will be said, the same as Ducati!
Just my take on the "unfair advantage"!
Congratulation's to Buell and everyone involved, with the hard fought and deserved Championship!!!
NOW GO GET DUCATI AND THE LITRE BIKES!!!

Troy
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R2s
Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your underestimating how potent the I-4 600cc really are. Half the size does not equate to half the power. on tighter tracks the lap times compered to a liter I-4 is not much less. only slightly. Also If you followed the series you would know its based on power to weight ratios so they added weight to the Buell. The smaller I-4's have faster corner speeds and similar power to weight ratios so the larger heavier bike actually has the disadvantage. Where were the other Buell riders? Why was it not a Buell heavy top ten?

The only advantage the 1125 had was its torque which you could see on the long straights only to be negated by the lighter bikes out braking it and cornering at a greater speed.

This is an awesome win. Way to go Buell and Danny Eslick. this finally gives Buell some racing credibility even with the confusion of the uninformed who just look at the numbers.
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Tbenson
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

R2s,
Good post!
I would never underestimate any 600, or question its capabilities.
The 1125R is a different bike than the 600's, that is all I was saying.
The CC difference was the argument laid out by the Nay Sayers, that is what I was commenting on, meaningless without the rest of the variables in place!
If you please, take another look at what I previously wrote, I thought that is what I was saying, without details?
My apologies if perceived any differently!

Troy
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, September 21, 2009 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a friend who is just LIVID that the championship was won on a "cheater" bike that was given "special treatment" by the AMA. He says Buell was "given" the championship, even the pace bikes were Buells.

He is vowing to never watch AMA racing again. And for the life of me I can't figure out why. I asked him if it thought it would be fair to have SV650's out there. I mean, they are "bigger" bikes than the 600's. What about a KLR650. It's a larger displacement bike. I guess it has an "unfair advantage" too. He stammers and stutters and says, "Yeah, but they aren't nearly TWICE the displacement".

So I asked him...What about a Vulcan 2000, a V-Max, a VTX 1800....would those bike's be "unfair"? He said, "No...because they weight too much and can't handle as good as a 600".

"EXACTLY!", I said.
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