| Author | Message | ||
     Jakecheez |
I don't have the details, but the article is found on Buell.com. The world speed record on ice is held by a Swiss guy on an 1125R nitrous induced! I think it was 255kph | ||
| Froggy |
British, not swiss. Then the record was broken by a Busa a few days later. | ||
| No_rice |
hehehe nitrous!!!! i like that!!! this completely seems like something i would do  http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/07/video-buell-goe s-for-fastest-bike-on-ice-title/ | ||
| Jens |
Hi, if you like that, here is the story of the making of the record. http://www.nccr.se/html/craig_jones_iceproject_200 9.html Jens | ||
| No_rice |
thanks jens! if i lived anywhere near you guys i would have way to much fun there lol! | ||
| No_rice |
this is just fn awesome! two of my favorite things in the same environment doing fun stuff! bikes and snowmobiles. hell ya!  everything looks tougher with ice spikes! man i need to get back into ice riding...     | ||
| No_rice |
more pics. http://www.nccr.se/html/cj_iceproject_2009.html | ||
| Jraice |
That CR appears to have upright bars... speed record... WHY?!?! | ||
| Crowley |
Unfortunately, Jones is very unpopular amongst many Buell owners in the UK and many avoid events he appears at. It stems from an incident at Cadwell Park race track where Buell owners were told that there was no overtaking at a Buell event. Jones then rode between riders and cut a few, less confident ones up, apparently attempting to impress others with what a good rider he was. Some left the track at this point. He's done nothing to ingratiate himself since. | ||
| Jakecheez |
Besides the studs and the bars, what is on that black CR that makes it so f'n Badass lookin? I want that exact bike- Sorry bout the Swiss/UK thing. Guess I shoulda just said "non-American rider gets record" lol! | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
man that thing looks wicked with spikes | ||
| Jens |
Hi Crowley, well I was 2003 (if you point on this year) in Cadwell too, maybe wasn´t brilliant that thing I personal havent seen him riding unfair (our rider was overtaking too...) also I never heared that he is "very unpopular" in UK. Craig is an absolute engaged ambassadeur for the Buell brand and push these bikes really to the limit, I would say that maybe compensate a bad moment 6 years ago. Jraice, the 1125CR is a stuntbike, the 1125R is the recordbike. Jakecheez, The CR on the picture is bonestock except the studtyres. No Rice, got your eMail, please give me a day before I answer, I am out of town. The guy on the sledge is my neighbor (-: Jens | ||
| Frontline |
Besides the studs and the bars, what is on that black CR that makes it so f'n Badass lookin? I want that exact bike- No front fender, No turn signals No license plate Stickers and big spikey tires Probably its the stickers though. | ||
| Jakecheez |
Ahh, the fender- gives it a "flatrack" flair. Also, the plastics on the ram air intakes looks jet black and the stock plastics look almost flat black. Maybe it's the arctic air.......nope, definetly the stickers! Makes me want to put some ice tires on my 9r | ||
| Jens |
All paint and parts on that CR are stock like at the dealer. Jens | ||
| Spike |
Article with video about the event where the Hayabusa broke the record: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-videos/video-swedes-beat-buell-ice-record-by-5mph/6974.html Video of the run: It's interesting that the Hayabusa was claimed to be pushing 300hp yet only went 153mph on the ice. It makes the Buell run of 148.7mph even more impressive. *Edit- forgot to include the link (Message edited by spike on July 23, 2009) | ||
| Jakecheez |
Jens- how can you say that those bars are stock? Along with "all parts"? Does the european Buell come with different bars than the us model? Also is it stock in europe to lack a front fender? I know there are differences in the model (Europe/USA), just not sure what- | ||
| Jens |
Jakecheez, dealers in Germany offer the customers to choose between the Caféracer and the Superbikehandlebarkit (Buell) without any extra costs (most CR buyers choose the SB handle.) Of course, also in Europe the CR comes with frontfender, indicators, mirrors, imm.platebracket, seatcowl and beltprotection. Spiketires, Dunlop and CJ stickers are not stock. Hope that was precise (-: Jens | ||
| Jakecheez |
Jens- it was precise, thanks for not being a d!ck about it, too. I learn somthing everyday on here. Does anyone have a closeup pic of this superbike handlebar kit? | ||
| Froggy |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/407449.html | ||
| Jraice |
Few questions. Are the bikes accelerating through the measuring zone or keeping a fairly constant speed? Are the bikes geared extremely low? A stock Hayabusa can go much faster then that on the street, so I would imagine to get the most out of that 300HP they would gear it for the predicted speed. | ||
| Jakecheez |
Froggy- you cease to amaze me! I hope you aren't getting fed up with how nieve I am. Thanks- | ||
| Froggy |
Jraice, the biggest issue I would imagine would be grip. They are going so fast that the spikes aren't really getting to sink in anymore and propel forward. I feel the heavier weight of the Busa helped it sink in a bit better and achieve the slightly higher speed. Just my own theories. Jake, it just boosts my ego and post count. | ||
| Jraice |
Those CR upright bars height wise are good but they could probably be a little wider for some more leverage... I just put the low bars on my XB12Ss and love them... To each his own. One of the reasons I bought the buell was for a more upright riding position then my last bike now I have a position almost the same as my last bike but its much more comfortable, whether its subtle differences (seat holds me in more, tank shape etc...) or just my experience who knows but now I am back to the clip on type position and enjoying it. | ||
| Tocramed |
Jens, What tires and spikes are those and how are they installed? They look like Stud Boy Power Points. Thanks, Tony | ||
| Jens |
The tires were Dunlop Roadsmart steelbelted. The spikes (bolt-through-type)I let make on a CNC machine and we were running different lenghth and setups including a tubeless version sealed with O-rings. It was inspired by the traditional icespeedway racespikes. The problem of the tires and why you need so much power is that the centrifugal forces are enorm. Calculate it and you find out that there are dragging hundreds of kilo on the tyre when you go on speed. This moment you need to feed in the power for and the tyres need to resist theses forces. I am just woking on the next (3 rd)generation what will go safe over 200 mph. There is for now no rulebook for icespeedracing. We had in the end only 900m (a bit over a half mile)track for that 238 km/h including acceleration and brakeway. We had 2 independend GPS systems for speedmeasuring onboard. So the 238 are a peak. I was there when this Hayabusa was racig in Funas dalen. The thing there was that they did not tell anybody how they took the speed (also not the riders and drivers - a friend was racing there). Maybe they used a radargun, there was nothing to see, also no timeslips were given. It was there a 3km track and they claim they took the average speed of the middle km (flying Km), but there were no speed/lighttraps visible. But that Hayabusa was quick too, no question. Jens (Message edited by Jens on July 26, 2009) | ||
| Tocramed |
Thanks Jens...I can't wait to try out a couple different setups this winter (hopefully, might end up being next year). I think my old Syncs, Stud Boy power points, and some tubes would be a good place to start. I probably wouldn't be doing much more than 30 or 40 mph, but we'll see. |
