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Pauley2000
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 11:16 am: |
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Hi all. I have an 09XT with about 3500m and counting. Perennial problem will be addressed. I've scoped out some of the fixes here with kevlar/teflon etc. Problem is I live in Newfoundland (it's cool here always) and I like the warm seat.(Hate the hot crack). I'm thinnin of annealing some 1/8" aluminum plate and fastening it via the air cover rear screw and tucking it in here and there to baffle the breeze from below. That and a small heat shield for the rear header at the calf/shin area. Anyone do anything with metal to deflect the hellish breeze? (pix please) Also any pix of heat shield on the header? (also where you got what size etc.) Loving the bike so far, everything's got issues including me. Thanks, -pauley (chillin' on "The Rock") |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 11:40 am: |
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First off make sure you seal the right side heat deflectors on top and bottom so that hot air only escapes out the rear as intended. Silicone works or aluminum tape. Other things I've done are here and works for me: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/312339.html |
Etennuly
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 02:06 pm: |
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If you get into building deflectors very thin aluminum sheet, less than .030, will work just as well and it will be much easier to work with. What have you been wearing for riding pants? I wear a double mesh AlpineStar in hot weather. If you wear jeans you will get toasted, if you wear shorts you will be roasted. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 02:15 pm: |
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I know I'll catch hel.l from some but I can ride without a problem in track pants with my setup. |
Pauley2000
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 03:03 pm: |
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I usually ride ATGATT except for shorter squirts less than 15 miles. Then jeans or my work slacks (commute) are the norm. Nice Electraglider_1977 Keep em coming guys. |
Odie
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 07:58 pm: |
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I have heat barriers on my website. Check them out in the sponsors thread (Special O.P.S.). |
Itileman
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 08:40 pm: |
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Put a heat shield from my old stock Road King exhaust system on the rear header. Took it off for a while & now it's back on. Works for the heat off the pipe there, but the frame still heats up. Not an issue as I ride ATTGAT.
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Tginnh
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 08:56 am: |
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http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/470269.html?1245293612 Scroll down the thread and you will see pics of what I have done for heat barriers. Odie's "max blanket" and DEI titanium wrap. |
Luftkoph
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 11:01 am: |
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OMG is that chrome on a ulysses |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 11:42 am: |
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I'd like to clad my rear pipe with this and paint it gray or black. Aspen Aerogels http://www.aerogel.com/markets/c_waterpipes.html |
Itileman
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 09:59 pm: |
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Yes, that's chrome. I have a lot of chrome polish left after three Harley's. They wouldn't let me return it, and I really missed polishing chrome when I could be riding. |
Itileman
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 10:03 pm: |
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I'd double check the temp range of the aerogel. I believe the pipes get into the 300* plus range. Otherwise, it looks to be a good option. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 10:17 pm: |
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That stuff might be the ticket for coating the inside of the frame around the rear cylinder head. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 11:28 pm: |
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Aerogel is fire proof. |
Itileman
| Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 09:35 pm: |
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Fireproof is great, but does it melt at over the recommended temp maximums? I'm interested. Please give it a try and report back. |
Pauley2000
| Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 09:15 am: |
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Thanks Froggy, & Electraglider_1977 I was out for 3hours yesterday in 25c heat. (I know not hot but as hot as it gets here) With riding pants, I got heat rash. I think an exhaust shield down low. (But not chrome) Like Itileman's but shorter. |
Od_cleaver
| Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 10:01 am: |
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The Pyrogel XT Aerogel has a max use temp of 1200F. Electraglider, The Aerogel site shows four different wraps. Which one did you use? Costs? Was it easy to use? How does it hold up? And I hate to ask, but do you have any pictures? Thanks |
Hooper
| Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 10:17 am: |
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Wow, 25 Celsius = 77 Fahrenheit. That's perfect riding weather, and you still got roasted? I've never experienced that in those conditions. Do you think your bike is running hotter than it should? My Uly would certainly be hot, but not burn-your-leg hot. A quick look on Google Satellite shows that you live in a pretty amazing part of the world - I'd love to take a bike up there. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 03:43 pm: |
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Od Cleaver, I haven't used the stuff because I don't know how to get it either. I've emailed Aspen Aerogel to no avail as they never answered me back. Eventually this stuff is going to be readily available and then we shall see if it solves a lot of problem. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 04:21 pm: |
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IMHO there are four significant sources of heat on the Uly: (1) Heat radiated from the engine and headers directly to the rider (IMHO a minor source) (2) Heat (radiation and convection) from the engine and headers to the frame, passed to the rider by contact between legs and frame (3) Hot air from the engine that blows out between the seat and frame on the right side of the bike directly onto the rider's leg. This is worst BEFORE the cooling fan kicks on. The fan tends to draw air into this opening. (4) Hot air from the engine that blows under the seat, heating up the seat which eventually heats up the rider's rear (1) can be helped by wrapping the headers or having them ceramic coated. Some riders also report improvement by tuning with ECMspy. (2) can be helped by lining the inside of the frame (especially around the rear cylinder head) with Thermotec or something like Aerogel. (3) can be helped by sealing off the opening in the top of the frame above the rear cylinder head under the seat (use Thermotec or aluminum HVAC tape, or by installing weatherstripping on the bottom right side of the seat. (4) can be helped by installing Odie's heat blankets and/or by applying Thermotec or Aerogel to the bottom of the seat pan. None of these changes makes that big of a difference, but in combination they do. |
Itileman
| Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 08:02 pm: |
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After all this is done, where does the heat go? It would seem to me that something, somewhere has to overheat. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 10:00 pm: |
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I don't think anything has to overheat. These steps are keeping the heat away from the frame and away from the rider. The results are the exhaust and hot air leaving the engine will be somewhat hotter. |
Pauley2000
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 08:58 am: |
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Ya away from ME! |