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Black
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure this has been answered before but can't find it. Not scientific I know, but how long are your brakes lasting?
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Ccryder
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 22,000 on the original set. I have a set of Lindals waiting on the shelf.
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Marcodesade
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy shit.

My first set (rear) lasted 4500. The next, just 2000. The fronts are still going strong at 6500+.
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brakes go fast relatively on the 1125r.

On my track bike, I change the front pads almost as frequently as front tires -- around 1500 miles or so.

I'm running EBC 4HH on that bike.

On my street 1125r, I get around 12k out of a set of the OEM pads.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Marco,

You are using too much rear brake. Really. Work on using a lot more front and almost no rear and you will be much safer.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Imonabuss. Use that front brake more buddy, trust me.
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Clbofaz
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My dealers tech (who knows what hes doing) said the 25R should be around 90/10 - 95/5 instead of the commonly cited 70/30 - 75/25 percentages. That 8 piston can do all the work!
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Black
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm at 18.8k with Loretta
Changed the rear pads at ~13k.
Fronts are still OEM, fresh set waiting on the shelf.

I like using the rear brake for "commuting".
Here in Colorado, Winter riding requires it, with the sand on the roads. Lowsides suck.
The rare chances I get into the foothills and hit the twisties, the fronts get more of a workout.

Zack
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Jdugger
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would agree with the Front/Back percentage comments, except I'd say that when riding at the track or in the "spirited" twisties, I use 100% front and 0% back. That back brake is just useless at pace for me.

I considered taking the back brake off to save all that weight on my track bike until a much smarter and much faster friend of mine talked some sense into me with the comment "yea, but what are you going to do when you end up off-track?"

The rear brake becomes useful, in my opinion, in situations like low speed parking lot maneuvers, in town in the cities navigating parking garages, driveways, etc.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd also advise not removing the rear brake. As rarely as I use it I had the rear brake go out on my S2 and it is a bit unsettling (mostly a distraction) to rest your foot on the pedal and feel nothing.
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Nikponcherello
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to bleed some air into the rear brake line on my racebikes. It's part mental, so you know that it isn't there as part of your normal riding and won't do much for you on the track. But if you end up in the grass, it'll slow you down a bit and hopefully not toss you.
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Redbuelljunkie
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since my first track day I have used the rear brake to settle the suspension when braking into turns. I have experimented with using just the fronts, but it always felt as if there was more front end dive without using the rear brake first. I cannot say for sure if it really makes a difference, but it certainly makes me feel more secure to use both. The rear brake is definitely a confidence-inspiring tool for my style of riding.
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Jdugger
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> I have experimented with using just the fronts, but it always felt as if there was more front end dive without using the rear brake first

Believe it or not, that's desireable.

Apply the brakes going into a corner firmly and as you begin turn it, start to sloooooooooowwwwwly release the front brake ever so gradually as you approach the apex.

The dive will sharpen the steering (make turn in easier), and I find it's more important to control the release of the brake than it's application.
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Jdugger
Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> But if you end up in the grass, it'll slow you down a bit and hopefully not toss you.

Court and Nick: you guys are so right, and so was my much better rider of a friend. The back brake is still there!
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Black
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks again,

I had washed the bike and put it away for a week and noticed some minor noise coming from the rear brake when I started it up and rode it. Only 3K miles....figure it might just be related to the washing. Oh yes, seven days and no charger and insta-start! Just thought I would throw that in.
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Crowley
Posted on Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check the plastic bush that the pedal pivots on isn't binding, mine was until I modified it with phos/bronze bush that I made. Bear in mind, the pipe will fire all sorts of crap at the caliper, mainly steam and other very nasty bye products of combustion. I wouldn't imagine that helps much either.
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Black
Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Situation has not improved. Think I just need new pads. Will let you know. Be safe out there!
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