| Author | Message | ||
     Prebs75 |
now what is the next step in cheap useful power up grades?? besides the air intake,and exhaust system??? whats next without digging into the motor right away? i think it has a different carb also , gonna research more into that tomorrow, any tips would be super!!!! | ||
| Phelan |
What range do you ride in? Do you wind it out or do you shift before 5500? X1 cams can be had cheap and will give you a few HP up top but you will lose a little midrange. A Baker lightweight alum front sprocket will increase rear wheel torque 4%. if you wanna get creative, even a significantly lighter rear wheel will add a few RWHP. I'm looking for a Ducati 749/999S rear wheel for mine, to match the 1098S front wheel I'm working on. It'll take some mods, and flipping the wheel around, to make it fit, but it'll shave 4 lbs of sprung mass, which not only increases power, but also increases handling and braking ability. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Stock carb's are supposed to be pretty good if properly tuned 190-200 or so(depending on elevation) main and a proper slow jet (45 I think?). With the intake and force pipe your new bike has it would be surprising if that hasn't been done. Air fuell mix may need adjusting too and something about shimming the needle, there are others here who know that better than I do. Check your ignition module (under the tail section on the right), you can get a race ignition Buell or other, some are adjustable. If you change out you pipe the Buell race part is pretty good and the internal disk muffler is also tunable. | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
Cams seem too be a reasonable HP for the $. I was told the ignition mod for our bike 02 M2 is a 1 year only module and that their is no race plug & play ign. You can by-past the stock ign. and install a complete aftermarket system. | ||
| Mr_wizard |
I went with the crane cams hi-4 single fire ignition. It is tunable and has a rev limitor not just a spark retard like the stock system. I also put n4 andrews cams in it. I am still not satisfied though, this winter the bike is getting tore down and I am gana put a zippers motor in it, I think still doing research on that. After the mods I did I came out with 88 horse and 80 ft lbs of tork and I still have the stock cv carb | ||
| Littlebuggles |
I bought a M2 specific "race ignition" Prolly come up with a part number if anyone needs it (I've save a couple old accessory catalogues). | ||
| Prebs75 |
does the ingition make a lot of difference??? not really familier with how that works. | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers: The mysteries of electronics are the same for the carburetor brain box as for the fuel injection brain box ... The carburetor brain box requires replacement to a up-dated brain box, where the fuel injection brain box can be re-mapped with a lap-top ... MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!! | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
Littlebuggles, can you find a race ign.# for a 2002 M2? I would like to find one. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
I don't really know what that means Buellistic. (???) Prebs, The ignition module controls the ignition advance, retard, and red line. Seems like it moves it from 6500 to 6800 is all and makes it a hard retard at the red line instead of starting a cut out earlier on... something like that. I'll have to take it out and check, can't until tonight (I'm usually watching the road, not the tach if I'm really slamming the throttle open) Supposed to part of the stage one (intake, ignition, and exhaust) improvements. | ||
| Migs16 |
get the mikuni 42mm its the best thing i bought for my bike!!!! i dont race or anything just around town riding and its so smooth and just makes it fun!! go with the mikuni. i found the hole install kit for 260. on ebay brand new. go check it out it took 2 days to install it!!! | ||
| Mr_wizard |
The ignition gives you more tunability. It also gives alot more acurate spark advance. I noticed a big difference when I put mine in! It's all the eye of the beholder. | ||
| Prebs75 |
so where does a guy find this different ignition system at and what kind of price range? i think it has a different carb not to sure yet weathers been good so i v e been to busy just driving it i guess and looking into exctually what i bought!!! it runs sweet and is VERY strong, anybody have any luck with any type of tank bag?????? | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers: If you have a 8 pin connector, the SCREAMIN'EAGLE IGNITION MODULE PN 32633-96(BUELL PN 32680-96Y, pre-"BUELLschitte" part numbering system) for 1996 and later XL1200 ... Even if you up-date your module you still need to put the timing mark in the right position,ie: just coming into the rear of the timing plug hole ... MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!! | ||
| Dave_02_1200 |
Back before electronic ignitions there were some very high performance modified Sportsters that ran contact breaker points and an auto advance. They did require relatively frequent adjustment due to wear on the heel that rode on the auto advance cam but they did the job and did not float at 7,000 RPM. Would that retrofit be a simple way to trigger today's hot coils without running into a rev limiter?? | ||
| Littlebuggles |
This is from the '01 Accessory catalog, word for word Ignition Module: 91438-01Y $114.95 -Fits 01 M2 models. -Increases rev limits of stock module. -Maintains low and mid-range precision of original ignition module. There was a different part for 97-00 M2's; 96-98 S1's: 98 S1W's; 97-98 S3 &S3T models. (sold for the same price, info states "Race proven advance curve that allows engine to rev to 6800 rpm). Different harness went into production in 01 I suppose (this was stated earlier?), don't think the 02 would be any different since it was the last production year. Sounds like the 01+ PN maybe just raises the red line? Now I'm gonna have to check the pn on mine  | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers: If you are going to spend money on a new or better performance IGN. MODULE, get the one that gives you the race performance ... MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!! | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Yeah, the Screamin Eagle part or another adjustable ignition is prolly the better way to go instead of just raising the red line. Buellistic, thanks for the advice on the timing, I'm cutting down my cam cover so will be sure to make sure it's set properly when it goes back together. | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers: No one has mentioned "YET", the SCREAMIN'EAGLE module PN 32654-98 which has the option on SINGLE(engine runs cooler) or DUAL FIRE, 4 advance curves, 4 rev limit settings, VOS: RETARD/NORMAL, and an LED so you can STATIC(set) time your timing ... MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!! (Message edited by buellistic on April 15, 2009) | ||
| Prebs75 |
besides the exhaust,carb,intake, and this mudule , there is nothing else you can really do without opening the motor i suppose?? i should really just leave it alone and really get use to the bike first, its plenty fast already!!!, first big buell club ride next sat!!!, can t seem to find to many cool shirts or other apperral either for buell, unlike harley who has 10,000 different shirts not to metion a lot of cool ones, all the buell ones i find are pretty BLAHH!!! | ||
| Brinnutz |
Here's your shirts galore: http://www.libertyharley.com/buell/clothing-06/ | ||
| Zac4mac |
Lafayette - I thought that number looked familiar - I tried to order one yesterday... It's obsolete and cannot be ordered. Maybe a dealer somewhere has one, I didn't check "easy-link". Zack | ||
| Brinnutz |
Lafayette, If this is the one you're speaking of: http://www.surdyke.com/hd/product.asp?prod=207&cat =208 That will not fit a 2002. They do not have the same plug style for ECM's as the rest of the tubers. The 2002's have the same style as the XB's. This is my 2002 ECM for my M2:  | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers: This PART NUMBER 32654-98 is 10 years old, "BUT" if you "GOOGLE IT", you will be surprised what you will find out about it ... MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!! | ||
| Brinnutz |
It doesn't fit 02's | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Could the prev years plug be spliced into the harness to allow other options or is there a good selection of ignitions for the 02's? Do the newer carb'd sportsters (when did they go to FI) use this module too? | ||
| Phelan |
Sportster answer: no. The '04-up Sportsters (carbed and EFI alike) use a crank positioning sensor rather than the earlier cam positioning sensors, so the timing is completely different. | ||
| Hugie03flhr |
Brinnutz, it looks very similar to the twin cam module. Is their a 12 pin T/C module that will fit??? | ||
| Psycrow |
I ran into an electrical problem last summer with my 02 and was told it was my ECM. It wasn't but for a couple of weeks I was looking for one. All the information I could find said the 02 M2's had a unique ECM from all other Buells. There my be a Harley equivalent but neither the dealers or I could find it. I'm just glad I was something else because they are not cheap and good luck finding one on ebay specific to the 02 M2s. psy | ||
| Buellistic |
BUELLers When BMC(BUELL)used the HARLEY-DAVIDSON PART NUMBERING SYSTEM it was easy to tell what retro-fited from the "BIG TWINs" and "SPORTSTERs" ... Now the BMC(BUELL) has gone to the "BUELLschitte" PART NUMBERING SYSTEM(started in 2002), you have compare parts(right in front of you) to tell ... MAY THE LONG LASTING BUELL BE WITH YOU !!! |
