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Dicktater
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wondering if anybody has the tank bag. Just got one and it fits a little loose. There isn't any way of tightening the attachment straps. I was considering cutting the rear strap/loop and rethreading it so it can be cinched down. Any suggestions?
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 04:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Exactly what you just mentioned.
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Downundabueller
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had one for 3 months now.Was very tight initially had difficulty clipping the lower assembly back on at times.
Its looser now, took it off a few days ago to discover the eyelets have started to stretch/tear as they are not re-inforced.
The mod to the rear sounds good for your situation.
I suggest re-inforcing the holes before they can deform.
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Spyder12s
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is loose enough that it has started to scuff the air box
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The one for my M2 was loose, I just z-folded the tail end strap and stitched across it a few times to shorten it by about 1/4". Fits fine now.
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have had one for about 10 months on mine... yes... is does seem to be loose with a little shifting right to left more than anything... and I have noticed some minor scuffing on the air box cover... which may show more on the black ones... I think if it is cinched down more you will accelerate the "eyelets" stretching/deforming sooner. When it becomes a problem... I intend to replace the bolt through end of the mounting system with heavier nylon and start with smaller eyelets... as I think the eyelets holes are larger than they need to be... thus weakening that mounting point... and allowing the stretch/deforming problem. I have seen someplace where a guy epoxied thin aluminum square onto the mounting straps... where the mounting bolt rested against the aluminum and the nylon side made contact with the airbox cover.

I don't intend to ever not have a tank bag... as I am such a pack rat... I may even do away with the factory mounting system and straps and solidly mount the bag with bolts and fabricated thin aluminum strapping in the bag to bolt through... eliminating all movement... and possibility of someone unclipping the bag and carrying the whole thing off.

I have a tail bag on mike 9S also... and that mounting system was improved by replacing the elastic strap with a nylon strap that fits under existing under seat screws. Nice bags... poor mounting system... but probably the best that could be done fast... and to work with what little the XB allows for attachment with the unique frame/chassis.
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Skully
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I too had the problems you guys list above. I solved them on my 9S by bonding thin aluminum sheet stock over the straps where tank cover fastener passes through and then re-drilling the holes. It works perfectly.

See "From Cruiser to Sport Bike - An XB9S Rider's Log by Keith Thrash..." in the "Tale Section". I give a bit more commentary along with a picture of my modifications.

keith
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Skully
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW, I neglected to mention that I placed some Saran Wrap underneath my tank bag and it prevented the scratching of the soft plastic tank cover.

Keith
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Skully...

That guy was you!

God it is terrible to get old... and remember stuff... but not from where it was found to pass it along completely!

Thanks for jumpin in with the rest of the story!!!
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Mikexup
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have never had a tank bag on my bikes, but was doing some reading and came across what seemed to be a nifty way of attaching a bag to the tank without all the hassles. Place is called Luggage Locker. www.luggagelocker.com 888-414-2903
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Spyder12s
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I just solved the loose issue .. just working on the hole issue, little more "R&D" then I will try to post some pics on mon or tues ..fairly easy! we'll see how it goes .

edited by spyder12s on January 16, 2004
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Ghostrider
Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 04:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine has been tight since I got it. But I have the airbox cover on mine, too. The rear mounting strap is crap, I didn't think the T strap was long enough to connect to the two bolts. I've left the straps on full time even if the bag is off and they've stiffened up a little from getting wet and then drying out.

I think the straps should have come with metal grommets to prevent the holes from warping/tearing. Mine haven't torn yet, but I can see that it will probably happen. I haven't experienced any scuffing cause that sucker ain't moving.

By the way, the bag makes a nice EMS First Responders bag. After I came back from the Torque Fest, I got all the gear in there I could ever want...well, sorta.
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Buell_168
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a company in WA,USA that makes luggage carrier ( Bike pack system ) for the XB. Try www.cycleventure.com
Great for long trips. They are custom made for over 750 models of motorcycle. They also have a picture of one installed on an XB on their site. Looks great and no part of the rack or luggage will touch the paint of your bike.
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Buell_168
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out the bike rack,http://www.cycleventure.com/fitments/display_picture.asp?fitment_id=641
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After I get the custom sewing on mine I will show you all the custom attachment adaptations for my Cortech TourMaster tankbag Setup.
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Opto
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These are made in Australia cost $150 Oz dollars approx US$115. Made of oilskin (oiled cotton - very waterproof and long lasting). Just got it today, stuffed a sleeping bag in it and tried it on...couldn't help myself!

AABagz

I'm stoked - have a look at http://www.andystrapz.com/
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Skully
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Ventura rack and pack system for my XB9S. Can't say enough good about it.

One of our sponsors, American Sport Bike, sells combos.

Keith

edited by skully on January 20, 2004
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Opto
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes I looked at the Ventura system, it has a very good name in Australia, I like to travel light though and most of the time with nothing but the clothes I'm wearing, the Ventura is 43litre or 60 litre over here and the bag I bought is only 18 litre. Just wanted something light/waterproof/durable to strap on for the occasional weekend away/camping/whatever. If I need more space I can strap the bag down on top of the sleeping bag, also in the pic the side pockets and top are still empty.
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Downundabueller
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got the ventura system on mine too. Great product custom fit to bike, easy to fit (quick) no mods or adjustments needed. Options of high bar for bags or grab handle attachment. Can carry 90-120 litres solo.
I am very pleased with it.
Add the tank bag to the equation and i can go long distance touring.
Now about that fuel capacity...........And a more comfortable seat............
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Dicktater
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skully just wondering what type of epoxy you used to bond the Al. to the strap. I've tried 2 different types of two part epoxy, and they don't seem to bond too well. Thanks for the info, it looks like the best solution.
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Skully
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a two part epoxy manufactured by Lord Chemical Corporation, PN 320/322. If you can't find it, you might try one of the JB weld epoxies.

Surface prep is important. I scuffed up the aluminum substrate with 220 or 180 grit sandpaper. I then cleaned both the aluminum and nylon strap with acetone and allowed both to dry.

If you have any questions, feel free to ping me off line.

Keith
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Kaese
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wonder why Ventura doesn't have a pic of on on the XB-R? I have seen one on a bike, but he left to quickly for me to inspect it closely. I was probably most interested in the rack. My back pack only fits 2 sixers.
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Downundabueller
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inspect at your leisure

ventura1
ventura2
ventura3
ventura4
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Joojoo
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How long does it take to remove the hardware on the Venture system? Easy to take on and off? Any drilling?


Jack
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Downundabueller
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn why when I try to change the font does it wipe the whole message!!!!!

Okay second time around shorter version.

Took me half an hour going carefully.
Two L brackets bolt into existing holes for rear footpeg upper mount(acsessed under seat next to battery) and up under the tail. Supplied longer bolts replace originals.
Four bolts to mount system.
Nothing needs drilling or modifications at all.
can be returned to original in half an hour.

As long as you keep the original bolts..........

Only takes a few moments to change upper from sport rack, to touring, to grab handle.
Clear precise instruction with kit. All hardware fits properly.

Its made by a New Zealand Company 'Dold Industries'
Got a feeling they make it themselves too.
Not a cheap crappy product.

Try this www.ventura-bike.com}
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Kaese
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DownunderBueller:
I am assuming the bolts need the rear peg bracket installed in order to cinch up the rack. Correct?

edited by kaese on January 23, 2004
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Skully
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DownunderBueller:
I am assuming the bolts need the rear peg bracket installed in order to cinch up the rack. Correct?


Nope, I install mine without using the passenger pegs. I made a 1/2" spacer to take its place.

Keith
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Buell_168
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DownunderBueller:

I believe it,s Made in USA. and ship to all parts of the world.
CycleVenture , Inc.
407 Howell Way
Edmonds WA 98020
USA Toll free 1 800 688-6439
Tel: 425-672-3774 www.cycleventure.com
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Downundabueller
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ummm no, Cycleventure imports the products for the North American market, from the manufacturer who is Dold in New Zealand.





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Spyder12s
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Text description, If you look close you can see the velcro, bascily I cut the loop and stiched on some velcro so that it could be snugged up ...

edited by spyder12s on January 26, 2004
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Spyder12s
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another pic.. Text description
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Spyder12s
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

another with some more light Text descriptionand some better background

edited by spyder12s on January 26, 2004
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nice pics spyder. you remind me of someone... just cant place the name.
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Noface
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

doh!

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Nevco1
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice work Spider. Think I will try something like that with the X1/Eclipse combo.

Suggest you save the profits from this new venture and get both cosmetic surgery and some hair. LMAO
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Spyder12s
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right on !
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