| Author | Message | ||
     Joojoo |
Hi guys, Anyone know what kind of mileage one can expect from the XB motors before a rebuild is needed? My 93 Wideglide, which I traded in for my XB12S, needed a rebuild at around 80K....I got some leaking around the gaskets, and some slap noise when riding...It was almost time for a rebuild. You guys think I can expect 100,000KM from the XB12 motor before a rebuild? I dont abuse motors... Jack | ||
| Dynarider |
Honestly? No. | ||
| M1combat |
Dyna doesn't like Buells. | ||
| Bads1 |
Honestly?? No I don't think so either and I love Buells.Sorry but thats one long haul for a streetfighter,being nice to it or not. | ||
| Dynarider |
M1..you are so wrong..but im not going to turn this topic into another bs match with anyone here. Dana is dead on, I dont see anyway you will get that mileage out of the XB motor without a rebuild. PS M1..you didnt answer the qusetion. | ||
| Joojoo |
Hey Dyna, That kinda sucks....I was hoping to dome long tours on my XB, I got rid of my Wideglide because the XB fits me so much better (im 5'4). Man, I hope that motor is as strong as they say....Id think that it would be better than an Evo, new technology, stronger motor considering what its built to do....plus, the Sporty motors are solid as can be...I figured the XB would be too... Jack edited by joojoo on January 15, 2004 | ||
| M1combat |
Just a little ribbing Dyna... JooJoo, you say 100,000KM... Is that one hundred-thousand kilometers or miles? I would imagine it will do 100,000 KM, but not 100K M. | ||
| Fullpower |
if you keep clean oil in it, ride gently untill it is warmed up, and dont regularly run it against the rev limiter, i dont see any reason not to expect at least 60,000 miles on the stock motor. i have 38,000 miles of horrendous abuse on my sportster (instant teenager-just add motorcycle) and it is doing very well. it is ready for a new primary chain and adjuster. have put LOTS of tires and several sets of brake pads and rotors on. cant seem to hurt the motor though. | ||
| Opto |
You guys are serious? So the new Sportsters will only do somewhere between 60k and 100k miles too?And then what - a cyl hone, new rings, valves reseated or something a bit heavier like rebore, pistons, rings, valves, valve seats, cam & rocker inspections, oil pump, big ends, mains etc? Just wonderin, spose at 80k miles the whole bike could do with a complete strip anyway. | ||
| Jrh |
Look at the thread below this one about 6 spaces, "XB milage and reliability continued". | ||
| Buckinfubba |
if you keep your fluids changed and such. and aren't that hard on it and all that stuff. I don't see why it wouldn't. But the problem is this. who really rides these bike easy for very long. I am being serious here. When your on it can you really keep the rpms low and shift at an easy 3 or 3.5k. I don't beleive so. butto that end its also hard to say because with the new engines they haven't seen enuff street duty yet to really honestly make that call. and yes occassionaly you'll see one that gets torn up. that is not indictative of all the bikes. once it happens to a bunch of them on a regular basis. then you can start to worry. I personnaly don't see why if you are good to your bike it wouldn't possibly make 100 k. I know my bike won't because it never gets ridden easy for very long. but then I didn't buy it with that thought in my head either. Plus more than likely It won't be on the street very much longer, me and some buddies are getting our race licenses and gonna put a endurance racing team together and my xb will be the bike we use. so The engine thats it will never stay together til 100k. I am sure it will be taken apart before then....long before then now just get on your bad motorscoooter and ride Brian Tilley hd/buell buckinfubba@hotmail.com | ||
| Benm2 |
The engine was first designed for 60hp and 6500rpm, on a "girl's bike". The XB engine, improvements & all, shows signs of being designed for double-duty in the new sportster. It's long-term reliability will always be compromised. However, that does NOT make it any different than any other sportbike. I imagine an F4i or a ZX12R would be equally clapped out at 100,000 miles. Besides, motorcycles are for fun. Engine rebuilds are opportunities to increase the power-to-weight ratio.... | ||
| Dynarider |
Im going with the his 10000km which is around 62K miles. The equate a sporty motor with the XB is not the proper thing to do. A sporty with super religious oil changes, never take the thing above 4000 rpms, etc etc would probably do it. But the XB motors are just a bit higher strung than the sporty is. You push the motor closer to the edge & its obvious that its not going to last as long. Just look at racing motorsports, those motors are all hp brutes..F1, Nascar, NHRA, etc, but they also have short life expectancys because of it too. Look at the trend so far with the XB's in the post below..couple bikes already had major motor surgery due to blowups by 20K miles. Is it impossible to take an XB to 60K miles without the motor blowing up? Im sure someone could probably do it, but then they also would most likely be riding it like a 95yr old grandma going to the bingo parlor. Even on the HD bigtwins you see a lot of the bikes needing a fresh top end around the 35-34K mile mark. The rings & valve seals are pretty well trashed by then. On those bikes its expected & accepted. The cost to replace the worn out parts is cheap & just about everyone & their brother in the country can do it. Im sure someone will come in with a story how their moms cousins brothers dads girlfriends co-worker knew someone who read about a guy that got 200K miles out of a stock bike & never had to do a single thing to it. Weird anomalys do happen, but 99% of us will never ever have that happen. | ||
| Brucelee |
I would suggest that we surely don't know the real answer to this question until someone does it. I would offer that it is really tied to riding habits and perhaps more importantly, maintenance. I am using Mobil One 15-50 and changing it out every 2500 miles. I fully expect to go 60 K without an engine rebuild AND I don't ride the bike all that hard. To wit, the engine oil at 2000 miles looks as clean as the day I put it in. Moreover, mobil one has tested its syn oil up to 1 Million miles with BMWs and have had near no wear at tear down. Hope I am right on this one!! | ||
| Cbr600 |
If the XB does 60k, then it deserves to be rebuilt, she earned it.... | ||
| Bigj |
There is a first gen CBR900RR in Socal well documented as having over 200,000 miles with never having the internals touched. Ridden everyday to work, canyon strafing and track days under it's belt on the weekends | ||
| M1combat |
I've got an '82 CB750F-SS with over 100K on it and has been ridden VERY hard (I routinely take it to 11K RPM's, once even in fifth gear). I opened it once to check the valve clearance (could use a valve job) but runs quite strong with VERY little smoke at idle. Uses one quart for every 1000 miles, fouls plugs if ridden in town but once she's on the road she keeps them nice and tan. It's probably float level but they're non-adjustable... Go figure. I just rebuilt the front end and it has fairly new rear shocks on it. Great bike. Kerker 4to1 pipe that just sounds MEAN. The rear rim's bent a little, but I've had it to 150 in that condition so I trust it for the most part. If anyone knows where to get a straight one though (I can't remember what brand/model they are off the top of my head)... I'll never go back to a low torque high revving bike for my fun bike though... I love the Buells. | ||
| Hippo888 |
Dyna, Not to be argumentatitve, but from personal experience working on BMW's, the liquid-cooled BMW's can easily rack up 100,000+ miles with nothing more than maintenance/wear items. A riding buddy just sold his K75S with 125,000+ on it. He got bored of it (bought a Sportster 1200). Not quite 200,000 miles, but still pretty good. | ||
| Dynarider |
Not to be argumentatitve, but from personal experience working on BMW's, the liquid-cooled BMW's can easily rack up 100,000+ miles with nothing more than maintenance/wear items. A riding buddy just sold his K75S with 125,000+ on it. Hippo..what in that statement contradicts anything I have said??? This topic is regarding the V-twin in an XB being capable of providing 62,000 miles of service before any motor work & for evidence to back that up you list the mileage of a BMW????? The mileage abilities of BMW's has been well documented over the years & I think just about everyone & their brother knows someone with 1 that has gotten over 100K without ever touching so much as a valve cover. Cant say the same thing about the HD V-twins however. | ||
| Opto |
Dyna do you have any facts for example on a typical mileage before teardown of an Evo 1340cc powered HD? It was not unusual 8 years ago for daily-ridden Evo's in Oz to reach 300K km, but I can't prove that either. |
