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Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 01:17 pm: | 
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Kudos to the bid "O" for taking out the $150,000,000 for "family planning" (i.e. publically distributed condoms).
I was laughing so hard at listening to Nancy Pelosi try to justify it the day before that I nearly soiled myself.
I keep getting this vision of a Smothers Brothers style show with Nancy and Hillary.
The bright side of this is that even as the economy wallows the next 2 or 3 years, we're certainly gonna be entertained.
Okay . . . now . . .everybody back into the federally funded pool!
Splaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash |
Gowindward
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 01:22 pm: |
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Okay . . . now . . .everybody back into the federally funded pool! "
Hey I read that no "pools" could be built with the money! Looks like more money is needed for oversight. |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 01:29 pm: |
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>>>>Looks like more money is needed for oversight.
It's certainly a shame that it is but you are correct.
What a sorrowful state of affairs when both corporate executives and our top politician failed to learn those little lessons our parents taught us about honest, judgement, common sense and accountability.
From Kathryn Sebelius to David Patterson to the halls of congress . . . our leaders are a source of embarrassment around the world.
Has anyone else read Lee Iacocca's new book?
Another good thing is that none of them work for me. . . they'd be fired in a heartbeat. |
Moxnix
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 01:33 pm: |
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The traditional "First 100 Days" are going to be interesting. The protocol is to let the newbie run then issue a report card and start resisting. O.H.B. is trotting forward with his Alinsky agenda and his opposition isn't 'xactly caving in. Repubs resisted Clinton in his first 100 days, always voted against his agenda. And took the House in a sweep in '94. This could work again, even with the bulk of media in the tank for O.H.B. Rebubs just have to stop squatting to pee in the name of unity or we'll all be wearing Mao jackets the the end of O.H.B.'s first term. And me a Bluedog Democrat . . . |
Gowindward
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 01:42 pm: |
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Actually they do work for us, it's just to bad it's so hard to get them fired.
I think I would need an anti depressant prescription before reading Lee Iacocca's book. I having a feeling it would be very depressing. |
Gunut75
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:08 pm: |
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Keep him honest............yeah! I'm not even sure they give a sh*t about anything but their own agenda. Love them politicians! |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:25 pm: |
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The really tragic component of the current stimulus plan, if you look at the provisions contained therein, is that the majority (2/3) of the spending are on pork programs and safety nets. What does this mean? There will be more money to support you if your mortgage fails, if you lose your job, or if you need food stamps. The stimulus package isn't designed to actually fix the economy.
The main purpose of the stimulus package, as it's currently written, is to create a new generation of life long Democrat voters.
If you think back to voting habits as a result of the New Deal, there were individuals who received assistance under New Deal programs that credited FDR and the Democrats with their survival. This provided the Democrats with life long voters as well as children who were more likely to vote Democrat than not.
In essence what this new stimulus package does is two fold. First, it sets up programs from which individuals gain benefit only if they fail. If you pay your mortgage, you get no money. If you don't lose your job, you get no money. If you are able to provide for your families needs, you get no money. The only way you get money is to FAIL.
Secondly, by denying funds to the open market, the plan provides for an expansion and lengthening of the current economic situation.
$850,000,000,000 would result in roughly $2800 per US citizen. This would be an instant boost to the economy. Instead, the economy will languish along as a result of Democrats seeking to furnish social engineering (Community Reinvestment Act Take Two), crony paybacks (ACORN La Raza), and loyalist building (New Deal Take Two).
We should be outraged that OUR government is using OUR money to provide the expansion of one party over another at the costs of more jobs, more economic contraction, and future indebtedness. Democrats are pitching $850,000,000,000 into a dark hole with zero return expected. |
Oldog
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:50 pm: |
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Where is this information? on the stimulus package I would like to read it. |
Gowindward
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 02:51 pm: |
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Get ready to barf
http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/RecoveryBill01 -15-09.pdf
(Message edited by gowindward on January 28, 2009) |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 03:08 pm: |
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C'mon, it's only 258 pages long. |
Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 03:21 pm: |
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. . . oh and a lot of Indian votes as well I'd bet with the $8,400,000,000 (Page 123) they are getting . . . divvy that up among tribal Americans . . . as they say . . "you do the math".
Oh . . . and don't forget, the Indians are done yet . . . ohhhhhhhh no, circl the wagons, they get another $5,000,000,000 for housing . . . now THAT is some serious teepee building!
Hey . . . it's your money, that your kids are going to have to pay back somehow. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 03:52 pm: |
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Maybe that box of Confederate money I have in the attic will be worth something some day. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:30 pm: |
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If I were king for a day, I would be putting a staggering amount of teeth and governmental control designed to bring total transparency... to the point of tedium.
What people want to do once they have that 100% transparency is none of my business.
Thats the one place that I think conservatives got it wrong. Free markets *should* be free, but they should be 100% transparent. And government enforcement is probably the one way to get that 100% transparency.
Where the liberals get it wrong (IMHO) is that they want to use governmental power to force people into behaviors and beliefs... which is pretty chilling. |
Oldog
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:41 pm: |
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The bright side of this is that even as the economy wallows the next 2 or 3 years, we're certainly gonna be entertained.
Reminds me of a comment my friend Juan made about Cuba, that was that they had the best tv on the planet, they had 2 channels of this "clown" telling them how good things were there. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:52 pm: |
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I've never understood why people want to turn the United States into Sweden. |
Gowindward
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:54 pm: |
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They left out The National Institute of Buell American Motorcycles Preservations Fund. I figure $1,700,000,000 should keep the organization going and create some new jobs along the way. I know a number of delinquent motorcyclists that will be put to work preserving a rapidly disappearing American treasure. Please write your congressional representative now before it’s too late to get this seriously needed funding. |
Wolfridgerider
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 05:02 pm: |
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I've never understood why people want to turn the United States into Sweden.
may not be that bad of a idea....
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Gowindward
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 05:19 pm: |
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Here's a good one
pg 130.
$1,200,000,000 for grants to the States for
youth activities, including summer jobs for youth:
I'm sorry but if I want to employee some kid in the summer I'll hire him to mow my yard...etc. |
Moxnix
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:53 pm: |
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"circl the wagons, they get another $5,000,000,000 for housing"
24 years ago in Alaska, overseeing water and sewer activities in villages, I picked up the lead HUD man from Anchorage who wanted to check on his department's showcase new housing project. Took off up the Yukon on the main road, he asked me where we were going. I told him Sunshine Circle. He asked if it wasn't back near the water and sewer plants. No, says me, it's three miles up the river. The houses, built of 24' by 48' of very spendy 12x12 logs shipped up from the States, had bathrooms and kitchens, but no working water or sewer that far out through 3 miles of permafrost. Problem being, the local council didn't like the person who owned the land that Sunshine Circle was supposed to be on, near amenities. I pointed out to the HUD chap that folks got their indoor water tanks filled at so much per gallon from my dept's water truck instead of direct taps from the distribution system, and folks had buckets under the sinks and tubs, which they dumped into the lake in the middle of the circle. Also, they put their human waste from RV type chemical toilets in garbage bags and set them out to freeze. Which works good in winter if they have them hauled away. But they thaw and leak and the blue chemical ran into the lake. And I drove him past children playing boats in the water.
I'd already attempted to get the council to haul the muck bags down to the sewage lagoon to avoid the health hazard. Nothing was ever done. I got HUD to put in outhouses at an additional $12K, each, for the children's sake.
See, government money is not real money to some recipients. It's owed to them. It's to be squandered, after which you simply ask for more.
Folks up the Porcupine River tapped into the heating oil tanks for the water plant and used it all up throughout the remote community. The whole water and sewer systems and treatment plants, millions in oil revenue dollars to install in a remote area, were frozen by February. Their solution was to ask to have it replaced. NOT! |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:54 pm: |
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I actually agree with some of Barack's ideas. I'll let you know if he actually does any I like.
When Congress(wo)men announce they want to "socializing" businesses, I hear the drums of Soviet Greatness. They have such a great life over there, don't they, under benevolent Soviet rule. Peaceful, happy folk who love their American mail order brides, so grateful to be in a rich prosperous land.... I think I have that backwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUaY3LhJ-IQ
Emission standards. How freaking clean do you want? A 2008 car is pretty clean now. We are at the point of diminishing returns. I doubt you get your moneys worth until it's so clean I can pipe the exhaust into my house to heat it. Not gonna happen. It's silly to have multiple standards, and it seems to me that CARB is a bit power mad. ( NY follows CA's standards )
I'm on record as an Arch Heretic on Al Gore's getting rich on Carbon Credits, So "cap & trade" and CO2 standards are just extra taxes based on a lie as far as I can tell.
MPG standards are what killed the station wagon & gave us SUV's. Bad law has unintended consequences. ( as do many good laws ) I'm pretty p'o'ed at Detroit for not giving me the 70mpg van I wanted, and was promised, back in 1977. Still waiting. Though I can get a 45mpg mini station wagon from VW. In fact mine arrived, but I had to sell my spot in line, since I'm underfunded right this decade.
My point is the market will sell good mileage cars, unless well intentioned laws make it unprofitable. & they have since 1977...... Still want that Van.
You know they are going to tax gas ( and all other energy ) up to make windmills & ( magic energy source to be determined by what we think we can con you into ) seem reasonable. ( I'm all for alternative energy. I just don't want to get screwed for it. I'll take a small fission reactor for my basement please. )
The Bill seems like it's every program the politicians ( mostly Dems this year ) wanted but couldn't get away with, all rolled into one happy bundle we HAVE to accept to save us from damnation. Bull.
They got momentum though, & it can pass without the Reps. Seems like Barack wants to avoid Clinton's mistake that brought the Reps into power when his honeymoon spending binge backfired. I just doubt the Reps are smart enough to do it again. Newt isn't there anymore. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 08:12 pm: |
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/200 9/01/29/hollow_victory_republicans_deliver_slap_in _the_face_to_barack_obama
It passed.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090128/D960EHJ00 .html
Oh well, as the White House Chief of Staff put's it, "can't let a good crisis go to waste".
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDBiYjY3OWJjOWMyMWFjYmZjMjU2MTAwNDg1OGExNTA=
(Message edited by aesquire on January 28, 2009) |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 09:38 pm: |
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Remember "wear a sweater and strap a solar water heater on the top of your house" Carter.
I believe, even after a week, we are witnessing Carter II.
Wonder who the next Reagan will be.
Damn, I wish Goldwater were here. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 10:14 pm: |
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As my Father often says, "They told me if I voted for Barry Goldwater, we'd be at war( in Vietnam ). They were right." |
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