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Dbird29
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 10:42 am: |
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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/13/detroit-2009-hot-stoppers-internally-mounted-calipers-on-linc/
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Indybuell
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 10:56 am: |
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Lol, where is the ZTL logo? |
Texastechx1
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:48 pm: |
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how the hell do you take the wheel off? its not JUST mounted to the hub anymore, its mounted to the hub and that rotor! or at least thats how it looks... |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:56 pm: |
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I assume its similar to our bikes, you remove the caliper first. Shoudln't be hard at at once on the lift, and you don't have to worry about clearing the spokes. |
Svh
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:56 pm: |
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That looks like a temporary brake for show cars. Lock it up so it doesn't roll off the stand or across the floor. I have seen that before with a "regular" motorcycle brake system also. Would be a cool idea if put into production and pay Erik some $$$ as I am sure they did just to put it on the show car. (Message edited by svh on January 13, 2009) |
Grancuda
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 01:39 pm: |
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What is ZTL? I think you mean inverted brake calipers. Here is the '08 Can-Am Race style 450 quad and it has "inverted" brake calipers. http://www.atvriders.com/atvreviews/canam-2008-ds450-atv-gncc-test-ride.html
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Eboos
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 01:44 pm: |
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That would not be an example of Zero Torsional Load. |
Eboos
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 01:50 pm: |
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That ATV brake setup has the benefit of allowing the largest possible brake disk diameter while the caliper clears the inside of the wheel, but it is hub mounted and will produce a torsional load. The torsional forces will go from the tire down to the wheel mounting bolt, then through the hub to the disk. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 02:02 pm: |
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I bet that %75 of the owners of that car would be able to tell if it was replaced with drums. |
Kyrocket
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 03:08 pm: |
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Really? That much? I don't know which Lincoln it is but just eye ballin' down the road they're usually driven by blue hairs that would only know the difference if they had to Flintsone it to slow down. |
Boltrider
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 05:40 pm: |
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A buddy of mine took some pics of a concept car at SEMA w/ Buell brakes. I tried resizing the photo and posting it, but the end result turned out like crap so I left it alone. Pretty weird though. |
Swampy
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 05:58 pm: |
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My little sister works for Bosch in the braking division and I have been telling her for a while now that she needs to get one of the engineers attention quick. |
Miamiuly
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 08:29 pm: |
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Guess you have to use run flat tires, not going to be changing that on the side of the road and the spare would have to have a ztl setup to match. |
Ochoa0042
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 10:30 pm: |
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I dont see why its not standard on all cars, or atleast sports cars!!! |
Easy_rider
| Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 10:35 pm: |
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they're usually driven by blue hairs Lincoln LSE. 280 HP before mods, and a few decades away from blue hair... I wouldn't mind the traction control giving me a little more freedom, though. |
M1combat
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 04:46 pm: |
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As I understand it... the "ZTL" patents include the mounting system. It looks like those rotors don't float. That means they'll warp unless they've done something else to combat that. Maybe the wheel is held by a bolt with a locking mechanism on the other side (Cotter pin, safety wire, etc...). That way you could remove the bolt, then move the wheel down and to the right, clearing the caliper? That's how I'd do it anyhow. |