| Author | Message | ||
     Hooliagn |
Harley sells emergency final drive belts for a few of it's models that can be installed on the roadside in case of a belt breakage. Anybody know of such a emergency belt for the 1125's or Buells for that matter ? | ||
| Steeltech |
Paranoia, paranoia, everybody's coming to get me. In all seriousness...you should carry two spare tires, one front and one rear, because you are more likely to get a flat from nails and what not than you are to split a belt. If you were really interested you could try finding a harley one with the same tooth count. Problem with it is you essentially staple the thing together so you could possibly destroy the automatic tentioner. In short, Buell doesn't offer one. Not now anyway. I wouldn't expect to see any either, the automatic tentioner doesn't lend itself to quick fixes. The belts on these bikes are a lot stronger than people give them credit for. If you are really worried about the belt, just inspect it every 3k miles. Again, I wouldn't put to much thought into the need for a spare belt. ST | ||
| Hooliagn |
Actually, the biggest Harley setup is short by approx. 14 teeth and they are screwed together not stapled. However, after reading a few of the older post, looking and taking apart my bike, I come to realize that the belt can be change on the side of the road if need be. So I will be carrying a extra. It has nothing to do with paranoia. I'd rather be ready with a spare then waiting for help in the P.A. mountains where it gets dark fast and the roads are less traveled. | ||
| Jaimec |
The problem is PACKING the spare belt. Any kind of twisting is going to weaken it so you'll need something BIG to carry it intact in it's original protective packaging. | ||
| Imonabuss |
Actually only the H-D type Gates belts have issues with being packed. The Buell Goodyear belts (post 2004) can be carried pretty easily. | ||
| Jaimec |
I wouldn't bet on that... | ||
| Hooliagn |
My Vrod belt was a stiff summmmbiach but it never showed any signs of wear or any threads for that matter. I wonder if the pitch on the two belts are the same. The Vrod had a 14mm pitch, i'll have to check the pitch and width of the 1125 belt later. I know the Vrod belt is available in the 149 tooth configuration. | ||
| Court |
>>>>I wouldn't bet on that... If you decide you do want to bet on it . . . let me know and I'll send you a belt . . . you "fold, spindle and mutilate" and we'd just, by golly, find out.  Test Mule be you . . . | ||
| Hooliagn |
VRSC(VROD) 149 tooth 40118-05.....25mm width.....14mm pitch $198.16 The CR has the same tooth count, width and pitch. The Gates(VROD) belt is made with carbon fiber. I never saw a thread on my VROD belt and I took it off/on the bike alot changing out the pulley. I only have 40 miles on my CR and the fibers are showing. I don't think that is a good thing since it's the fibers that hold the belt together. | ||
| Jaimec |
Not me, Court. Let someone else be the brave one. | ||
| Nxtr |
Court, I am not afraid... I will let you know if mine ever breaks. (not one to date) or next winter, which ever comes first. I will change mine out to the out of the packing rolled up and stuffed away spare, and get back to you all with the results... V/R, Nick | ||
| Zac4mac |
I'd take you up on that offer, Court. I lost a belt on my 03 XB9R by not removing it when changing the rear tire. Not much to put my good belt away and run an abused one for a while. I'm on short rides these days, HC-HD/B has a crash truck if I get stranded. It would be very interesting to see if the new belts can be coiled up and one stored under the seat... I will say the new belts are "more robust". I froze my idler pulley and friction burned .130" from the center of the belt out to .100" at the edge. It's in a box - a spare for emergencies. Zack | ||
| Daggar |
I'd take you up on the offer too, Court!. | ||
| Jdugger |
As someone who got stranded in Arkansas with a busted belt at 25,000 miles... I'd sure like to know if there were just a decent way to tell when it's time to replace or not. Because when you looked at my busted belt... it was very clean and showed no wear, except where it broke! I could care less about what you can and can't do with the thing. I care a lot more about "how do I make sure this never happens again?" In my case, I carry two cell phones on different networks, and golly gee, in that particular spot, niether worked! Got back to the hotel 6 hours later after missing a perfect day's riding. | ||
| Hooliagn |
Did your belt have any threads/fibers showing ? | ||
| Jdugger |
> Did your belt have any threads/fibers showing Only at the breakpoint. The belt had no splitting of the rubber between the theeth or any real signs of wear at all, actually. IF you are referring to seeing a little bit of kevlar "nubs" on the sides of the belt... I've noticed those before, both on the old and new belts. I'm not convinced it's worth worrying about. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Mine has little white fibers coming out the sides--so did my XB. With almost 35,000 miles on two belts, no problems whatsoever. With the newer belts, you can change the tires with it still on the bike too. I personally don't consider it a concern. | ||
| Court |
Zack: It'll be on the way tomorrow. I want you to give s bit of thought to how an owner might carry and store it. Pack it, stuff it, carry it and use what you consider reasonable and normal care. Then put the thing on and beat the piss out of it. I'm a bit less scientific than the Buell Engineering Team but I want to add this information to the BOK. You know to log the service and any unusual events. E-mail me the address you want it sent to. Court | ||
| D_buckle |
iv broke 3 belts this season... where can i store a spare on the bike... i would be willing too forshure... would be awesome if i could fold it up and zap strap it up out of the way somewhere. any idea's? | ||
| Hooliagn |
I plan to keep mine under the rider seat if possible. | ||
| Nxtr |
I dont know if there is enough room, but the airbox may be a good spot. I used to hide a bunch of stuff in my Street Rod airbox... V/R, Nick | ||
| Slypiranna |
Instead of all this, why can't BMC/HD make it common procedure to keep at least ONE 1125R & CR (Belt)...and whatever other Buell for that matter, as a normally stocking item? There are dealers all over the place, how hard would it be then to get a wounded 11 (or any other) back on the move again? Seems logical, yes? No matter what precautions are taken tho (by riding with spare parts and the tools to do repairs), $hit happens. You can only cover so many bases, that's why I think dealers should keep the most important on hand, at all times. Who the hell needs AAA or cell phones anyways... Heaven forbid anyone gets hurt while on the rural rides and didn't have a paramedic as a passenger! geez... | ||
| Zac4mac |
Outstanding, Court. It will be well documented. I love the belt, but I always wonder where I'll be when it breaks... A viable spare would quell those concerns. I will try to fit it under the seat and see if there'll be room for the Cali/Euro crowd with evap canisters. Zack Good point MM, but you gotta get to the dealer... Better idea is, get a spare yourself, you know you're gonna need it sooner or later. (Message edited by zac4mac on December 09, 2008) | ||
| Slypiranna |
In over 20+ years of driving these two wheel contraptions, I've only broke 1 chain...and it wasn't a matter of life or death if it took me a day or two to get another. Similar to if one of my cages break down. Even in my cars & trucks, I don't carry spare driveline parts to fix along the road. When I have been broken down on the road, it gave me a reason for getting to know the locals in that region and awaiting FedEx/UPS to show up! | ||
| Slypiranna |
And why not a red gallon gas can to strap to the tail!? THIS seems more likely than the belt? | ||
| Hooliagn |
No one is saying YOU have to carry a spare belt. Some of us would just prefer to be prepared just in case. | ||
| Slypiranna |
Understood Hooliagn. Thanks for you enlightening me! Then...if you must find a place to store...I use a backpack to carry a lot of stuff and I'm sure a belt would fit just fine in that respect. Just another thought as like you know, room is limited on the R.  Hope that helps and best of luck that you never have to use it! mm | ||
| Tasmaniac |
I dont have much luck with belts broke seven in 80'000k's on my Thunderbolt, one on my Nightrod in 30'000k's and one so far on the 1125 thats nine belts in eight years Regards Brett | ||
| Eweaver |
I snapped a belt two days ago. It was a clean break, no sign of wear (11,000 miles). Fortunately I was only about two miles from Glendale Harley and they took care of me in short order. These things do break. | ||
| Zac4mac |
The "store and ride" test will start shortly. I expect the belt from Court today or tomorrow. No riding today, Canada is visiting, it's -13 dF(-25 dC) right now. It will live coiled up, under my seat for a month or so, then I will put it on and see how far I can get before it pops. I hate having to call for help. Zack |
