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Duggram
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 02:28 pm: |
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On our track's forum their talking about an effective and reasonable traction control for the inline 4's. Saw it in action last month. It looks good. Is their such a thing available for the 1125? |
Sd26
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 02:34 pm: |
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Unless it's part of the Buell ECM system, no. Traction control doesn't work while working the front brake either. Yates' team, Jordan, does a lot of work with Bazzaz, and he runs his TC off. |
Eboos
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 02:52 pm: |
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The normal firing pulse of an inline four is what causes the need for traction control. The bang*bang*bang*bang doesn't give the tire time to recover when you start to spin it up and it slips, slips, slips some more and then you highside. Twins have an advantage there because the way they fire, it's like a built in traction control. The 09 R1 is an exception to this with it's irregular firing order. |
Duggram
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 03:20 pm: |
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thanks for the for quick feedback. Bazzaz is the one talked about. I saw it on the Suzuki that Chris Peris road at Arroyo Seco last month. Lots of the experts were talking about how he could set the throttle and go. Sounds pretty automatic. |
Slaughter
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 03:31 pm: |
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Yabbut - it STILL has to be setup - kind of like the slipper clutch and look at what happened to Barnes while working on the clutch settings at Daytona. None of this is easy. |
Mcgiver
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 07:34 pm: |
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Traction control(the nut on the end of the throttle). |
Duggram
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 08:52 pm: |
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Did anyone else notice that the 1198s comes with traction control standard? Maybe it's a good thing on a v-twin? |
Eboos
| Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 10:10 pm: |
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The 1198s is also wicked tricked out. It is just pretty much meeting expectations for it's price point. I wouldn't consider it to be necessary. |
Schmitty
| Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 06:12 am: |
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It depends who you talk to. Some riders love it, some hate it. Myself, if I was dealing with a bike with the power to highside me with little or no effort, I'm at least going to give it a try twin or not! There's a lot of pros out there who say they hate traction control and that it needs to be banned in MotoGp, WSBK, AMA, wherever, but I don't see many of them pushing that hard to get it done! Sure it's fun for the fans, but would you want to go flying to the moon like Jorge Lorenzo did a couple times this year? Trust me the Ducati 1198S will be able to use it even in stock form. And either way it's not fool proof, as Lorenzo proved. Some racers say it actually slows them down! Schmitty |
Sd26
| Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 08:01 am: |
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If a 1198 comes with traction control, it's just a rate of RPM increase map, not a traction control set up like a MotoGP bike. |
Eboos
| Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 09:33 am: |
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The term "traction control" is being used pretty loosely. You are right Sd26, I don't remember reading anything about the 1198s having rear wheel speed sensors and any sort of electronics to make sure the rear wheel is spinning at the correct speed relative to the front. |
Littlefield
| Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 09:43 am: |
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In one of the recent 1198S reviews they mentioned the bike didn't like to wheelie because the traction control sensed different front/rear wheel speeds and cut power. |
Schmitty
| Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 03:55 pm: |
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The 1198S comes with the same traction control as the 1098R had last year, which is true traction control. The system is a copy of the 1098R used in WSBK. Schmitty |
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