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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wal-Mart Worker Trampled to Death
NEW YORK (Nov. 28) -

A Wal-Mart
worker was killed Friday after an “out of
control” throng of shoppers eager for
post-Thanksgiving bargains broke down
the doors at a suburban store and
knocked him to the ground, police said.
At least four other people, including a
woman eight months pregnant, were
taken to hospitals for observation or minor
injuries, and the store in Valley Stream on
Long Island was closed for several hours.
It reopened shortly after 1 p.m.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. in Bentonville, Ark.,
called the incident a “tragic situation” and
said the employee came from a
temporary agency and was doing
maintenance work at the store.
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“The safety and security of our customers
and associates is our top priority,” said
Wal-Mart representative Dan Fogleman.
“Our thoughts and prayers are with them
and their families at this difficult time. At
this point, facts are still being assembled
and we are working closely with the
Nassau County Police as they investigate
what occurred.”
Nassau police said about 2,000 people
were gathered outside the Wal-Mart
doors at the mall about 20 miles east of
Manhattan. The impatient crowd knocked
the man to the ground as he opened the
doors, leaving a metal portion of the
frame crumpled like an accordion.
Nassau police spokesman Lt. Michael
Fleming, who described the scene as
“utter chaos,” said, “This crowd was out of
control.”
Dozens of store employees trying to fight
their way out to help the man were also
getting trampled by the crowd, Fleming
said. Witnesses said that even as the
worker lay on the ground, shoppers
streamed into the store, stepping over
him.
Kimberly Cribbs, who witnessed the
stampede, said shoppers were acting like
“savages.”
“When they were saying they had to
leave, that an employee got killed, people
were yelling ‘I’ve been on line since
yesterday morning,”’ she said. “They kept
shopping.”
The 34-year-old man was taken to a
hospital, where he was pronounced dead
at about 6 a.m., police said. The exact
cause of death has not been determined,
and the man’s name was not released
pending notification of family.
A 28-year-old pregnant woman was taken
to a hospital, where she and the baby
were reported to be OK, said police Sgt.
Anthony Repalone. At least three other
people were taken to hospitals with minor
injuries.
Police said criminal charges were
possible in the case, but Fleming said it
would be difficult to identify individual
shoppers. Authorities were reviewing
surveillance video.
The industry’s largest retail group said the
incident was rare.
“We are not aware of any other
circumstances where a retail employee
has died working on the day after
Thanksgiving,” said Ellen Davis, a
spokeswoman at National Retail
Federation.
Shoppers around the country line up early
outside stores on the day after
Thanksgiving in the annual bargainhunting
ritual known as Black Friday. It
got that name because it has historically
been the day when stores broke into
profitability for the full year.
Many stores open early and stay open
late. The Valley Stream Wal-Mart usually
opens at 9 a.m.
Items on sale at the Wal-Mart store
included a $798 Samsung 50-inch
Plasma HDTV, a Bissel Compact Upright
Vacuum for $28, a Samsung 10.2
megapixel digital camera for $69 and
DVDs such as “The Incredible Hulk” for
$9.
The store was crowded Friday afternoon
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Buellatp
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't freak out, CHANGE is on the way!!!!
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Buellfighter
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$798 for a 50" Samsung, I'm outa here.....
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I HOPE that CHANGE is on the way. : |


I hope the families sue Wal-Mart for several million dollars. Maybe a little litigation will convince these bastards that opening at 4:00 and putting three items on sale isn't worth the effort.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hummmmph
Just heard this on TV.

I'd walk over you to see The Who...
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Vortec57
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, they're nuts.
Today the dealership opened to 85 people at 6am. When I got here at 5am there were 5 of them standing at the door.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can see getting there early, but a person lost their life because he was stampeded by IDIOTs looking to save a few bucks....
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are just beginning to realize that a herd has no brain?
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

People do all kinds of crazy s***. Some camp out on the parking lot of Chick-fil-A stores just to get a free year's worth of chicken sandwiches.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What a bunch of greedy idiots. There is nothing of extraordinary value(to me anyways)to stand in line and shop shoulder to shoulder. I don't get, I just don't get it. Lead time for Christmas shopping for me is ten days..........more than enuf.
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love America, but I am really starting to hate Americans. There is no decency, civility, or courtesy among many Americans anymore. This is just another example of how low we can go.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We're about to start a new tradition. Once the mystery of Santa is dead, we are going to enjoy Christmas as a time for family and give the kids money to spend AFTER Christmas.

I want no part of Black Friday. I worked enough years in retail to see the absolute worst in people.

Is that gift you bought so an so three years ago and forgot about worth the life of someone?
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I hope the families sue Wal-Mart for several million dollars. Maybe a little litigation will convince these bastards that opening at 4:00 and putting three items on sale isn't worth the effort."

Sueing Walmart isn't going to solve anything. That will be just another way to pass the buck. Wal-Mart did not cause this unrulely mob to trample several of it's employees down. It is the greedy mothereffers that killed this person and injured the others. I take great offence to this act especially due to the fact that these people were not expecting to face any danger in their job which doesn't pay much more then minimum wage.

Walmart will without a doubt be sued, but I want the crowd to also face their fare share of justice.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Online shopping+coupon codes= much better than dealing with the herd bs
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get everybody that rang through the register in the first hours in a class action suit. Sue them all. Welcome to the United States of Litigation.
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No let's not hold anyone personally accountible for their actions and only sue the retailer. Sue where the money is. Welcome to the United States of Scapegoating.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a reason they call it"Black Friday", People are so self centered anymore........me first,me this , me everything...........and when you are babbling, drooling on your bib in a nursing home......,the whole "me first" will be meaningless and it will all come to you that it's to late to share your love, your life in a more sensible manner.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps they should replace those people that run from the bulls in Spain with Walmart shoppers : )
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The term "Black Friday" comes from accounting when you no longer are "in the red" for you annual profit and loss statement.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sueing Walmart isn't going to solve anything. That will be just another way to pass the buck. Wal-Mart did not cause this unrulely mob to trample several of it's employees down. It is the greedy mothereffers that killed this person and injured the others. I take great offence to this act especially due to the fact that these people were not expecting to face any danger in their job which doesn't pay much more then minimum wage.

Walmart will without a doubt be sued, but I want the crowd to also face their fare share of justice.


No one in the crowd will be held accountable just like no one in a concert trampling is held accountable. How do you charge a crowd?

I don't like to sue corporations for the sake of making money, but in this circumstance the retailers are the enablers.

If you knew Wal-Mart wasn't going to be open until the regular time, you wouldn't feel the pressure to show up first and run for it. The retailers create the feeding frenzy for their own profits.

We were able to get buy for the last 30+ years of my life without bullshit 4:00 AM sales.

Maybe being hit with a $15M lawsuit settlement will convince them that this shit has to stop.
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Driving home from a job, listening to the local news on the radio this afternoon, there were 2 people killed in a 'Toys-R-Us' store in Palm Desert.

Apparently "2 young Hispanic women" were arguing about something, loudly with lots of profanity, according to witnesses, and one of the men that was accompanying one of them pulled a gun. Another "male Hispanic" pulled his out and then "shots rang out" and now both are dead.
Story is still developing. Film at 11.

"Yo - Vato! dat Wii is MINE, Holmes~"

Black Friday, indeed!
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if they opened later it would have just happened at 8 instead of 4. I went out 1 time on "black friday" never again. Perfect day to go riding. Eveybody else is shopping.
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"if they opened later it would have just happened at 8 instead of 4"

Thank you. I wanted to say that earlier, but I just figured to drop it. I don't know why this kind of thing bothers me this much.
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lead time for Christmas shopping for me is ten days

For me, it's Christmas Eve.
You would be surprised how few people are out.

"Yo - Vato! dat Wii is MINE, Holmes~"

I have no problem avoiding this also, unless the UPS or FedEx dude pulls a gun.(It'd be a real bad day for that dude, and I'd have to dump a huge truck full of crap.)
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greed. Motivating shoppers since the late sixties when it was first found that people would shop on Sundays.

I'm all for the sales being run the way they are, I'd just change one thing......the first six shoppers through the door will be shot dead.

Let the sale begin.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

if they opened later it would have just happened at 8 instead of 4

Possibly, but it's the feeding frenzy intentionally created by the retail companies than pisses me off.

They advertise 10 highly sought after items of which they have two of each with the sale beginning at 5:00 AM knowing that people will act like crazed lunatics to get it and then be pissed off when they can't get it. Their hope is that they will buy the regularly priced item next to the sale item.

It's a game that is totally ridiculous.
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Court
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had my own Wal-Mart story today . . . anybody else having trouble buying ammo?
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As the years have gone by, I have really become disenchanted with the commercialization of Christmas. Maybe it's time America celebrates Christmas for what it is!!

Think you can fix that Prez-Elect Obama??
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Skinstains
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hate walmart more than most but not because of today's TRAMPeling. I would love to see them go out of business. Today's TRAMPeling (IMO) is not their fault however. Sooner or later we as humans must be held accountable for our actions. More and more litagation isn't the answer. That's the reason you can't get within 50 feet of the new racetrack in jersey. A little less safety and a little more freedom please.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sooner or later we as humans must be held accountable for our actions.

Great. What's your plan for making that happen?
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