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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just wondering if its anything special, going to do some plastic welding.

Thanks in advance,
JD
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I remember right, they're calling it "roto-molded nylon". Has to do with the spinning of the mold (roto) during the molding process.
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Lee
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe some years were made from Surlyn also...like golf balls.
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't plastic weld a fuel tank. Bad idea. They're not that expensive...especially considering the possible consequences!
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Seeeu911
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm I recently broke the front tang off my fuel tank, (98s1w) when I flipped the bike after hitting a dead animal. It does not look like the fuel bladder is compromised and I was considering plastic welding also, now probably not, it makes a very cool garrage wall decoration.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you talking about the tank or the tank cover?
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl: The S1W had a tank (no cover). Some earlier models (like the S2) plus the X1 (and Blast?) have tank covers.

Seeeu911: There was an NIB S1W tank on ebay about a week ago. The starting bid was $300. I made an offer (conciderably less, of course). He was looking for about $500 (reserve price) for the tank. I little steep for my blood:D
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't buy what they don't make. Plus, I'm not repairing the tank, I'm adding to it.

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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They still make that tank. It will cost ya some$$$$ but they still make it. I just ordered the whole set of Body work for a 96 M2
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seeeu911 Tanks look good hanging on the wall as a clock.Put a CD upside down where the fuel go's and then buy a clock motor.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I picked up a S1W tank last spring for $120.00 Canadian. It was used and needed paint but the price was right.

Keep Looking you will find a one.

$500 is real steep in my opinion.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, but he is talking about welding plastic, so I'm asking if he's talking about the tank or the tank cover. Metal tanks are not part of this topic.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Metal tanks? On a Buell?

http://www.dcbrag.org/history.htm

http://www.davegess.com/buelhist/index.htm


Justin,
Are you adding capacity, or something else, or just gluing stuff to the current tank and want it to stick real good?
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1313
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The painted tanks are a Super Tough Nylon, while the unpainted tanks (anything with a cover over them) are a High Density Polyethylene. The tank covers ranged from Fiberglass on the S2, to initially Nylon for the painted X1 covers to Surlyn for the molded in color X1 (also XB) tank covers. Oh yeah, the RR, RS, & RSS were composite (fiberglass and possibly kevlar).

Probably more than you needed (or wanted) to know,
1313
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S320002
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I just ordered the whole set of Body work for a 96 M2."

Spidey,
'96 M2s were so rare that they were non-existent.
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Jst
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Body work for a 96 M2
I thought the M2 wasn't introduced until '97

edited by jst on December 04, 2003
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

God One little mistake I swear t' God!!

LOL 97 Sooooorrryyyyy!!!!

damn key board makers put the 6 an 7 so close together ;)
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Cj_xb
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fat Fingers !!!!

CJ
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What can I say, I am a well hung lesbian.
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are????
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes I am a lesbian trapped in a man's body ;)


God I love that Hat!!

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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the deal, I hate the X1 tank, and I forget who makes the aluminum tank that's unfinished and cost $800.00 (forget that). So what I'm doing is modifying a '96 S1 tank to fit the X1. I need to cut a small piece from the bottom of each tank and swap to fit the fuel pump. Then I need to cut and modify the rear of the X1 tank and attach it to the S1 tank so the seat will fit properly, this I had planned to do with epoxy and finish with body filler. Now hearing that the two tanks are different materials the welding part may not work, but this will not stop me. I will find a way to fit the fuel pump and it will work. I already have two reserve plans in my head so it will be on there by spring.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JD,
A guy did that a while ago he was in Battle2Win.
There were no details But it can be Done!

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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spidey did ya get the email I sent ya???
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW I suggest using a epoxy that is used on RV containers, IE Fuel, waste, etc.
Is should be available at your local Auto Parts store. It is Fuel an oil proof an hardens like a rock.
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, I'll check that out.

I've seen an X1 with a fuelie S3 tank on it, he modified the seat to wrap over the tank like newer M2's and S3's, didn't look quite right, seat to long, body lines didn't flow real well.
But, to each his own.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would definitely recommend starting with a 99+ S3 tank though.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Donn,
The tank on my S1W now is from a Black 2000 M2 tank bought from Ebay, it's identical to a 98S1W tank as near as i can tell (though the specs say a 98S1W is 5.4 gallons, and a 200M2 is 5.0 gallons ???). I stripped the Fisher price letters off with dental floss, it looks great.. You should be able to find one if you're patient for between $130-$200 on ebay...I did. If you need one NOW, I have the one I took off my bike that is black and had bubbled letters...I tried to cut them off and managed to expose a couple tiny spots of primer. A touch up with black paint, a few blasts of rattle can clear, and you'd have a tank that would hold you over a little while until you find a erfect one one on ebay. I'll sell it to you for whatever you think you could get for it once you find the final replacement, (or you could just paint this one...). Let me know, I could send you a pic if you wanted....

Al
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl,
That would be easier but I don't like the look of that tank either, I like the small tank much, much better, plus I can bring my clip ons back further and tuck in easier with the smaller tank.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It may be easier to convert it to a carb than it will be to get a fuel pump inside a tank that wasn't meant to have a pump in it. Are you able to reseal the tank after welding on it? Some sort of goo you pour in and slosh around?
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Seeeu911
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Al for the generous offer. I do have a spare tank, its on the bike now. Last year sometime I traded a slim tank evensteven with another badwebber for a big tank.
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carb conversion would cost $$$. Till I got a carb, ignition module, wiring harness?, I would have more than I would care to spend, I mean a carb alone is over 2 bills isn't it? I have around $150 bucks invested in two used fuel tanks.

There is a sealant made just for MC fuel tanks, it works very well.

Anything is possible if you set your mind to it.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True. Didn't say it would be cheaper, just easier. Good luck with your project. I didn't like the X1 tank either, but it has sort of grown on me.
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Jdbuellx1
Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't get me wrong, carb conversion may come further down the road, right now I'm putting out 100 RWHP, if I decide to push further a carb may be my only option, from what I've read on here it doesn't sound like the F.I. can handle much more.

I was looking at your bike in your profile (Hootowl), That bike would look killer with a color matched tail as well.
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