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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dont like the fact that i have to pull the rear end to do a belt change, A chain takes like 5 mins. Are the chains any better or do they stretch a lot from all the torque the bike makes let me know what you guys are using and any ups or downs with this type of switch over.

(Message edited by preybird1 on November 05, 2008)
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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BELT: My OEM belt lasted 60K ... My 1st replacement belt will last longer because it was put into service adjusted
correctly ... Are a no maintenance item ...

Chain: Racer's change to them as it is easier to CHANGE GEARing ...
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Sloppy
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before we start a feud, first look up the many discussions in the knowledge vault.

Short version is:
if you like low maintenance, low cost of ownership and efficiency then use a belt.

if you'd like to have the ability to easily change your drive then use a chain.

Both had advantages and disadvantages. Each person needs to decide what they want.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

where is that can of worms gif???
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But dosen't your X1 have a removable Frame section on the left side for belt changes?
I did my '99 in less than an hour(after a fourth gear speed shift wheelie attempt ripped 14 teeth off)...it was cake!
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Tripp
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they both have their advantages and disadvantages, i've done both over the years, i'm back to the belt again, sloppy loose with no problems. the chain did stretch on me when i had it but, it was a cheapy (520?) that came with the baker kit, i've meet a few buellers that like the chain and they've all had a 530, so if you buy the baker kit just expect to have to buy a 530 chain within a year and you'll be ok.
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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was only done for one X1 Model year ...
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Jos51700
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was only done for one X1 Model year ...

I'm not sure that is accurate.
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Skntpig
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went to a chain after snapping 2 belts in 11,000 miles (due to undue hoolaganism)

I have a good 520 chain and have had almost Zero stretch.

It is one of the higher dollar "race" chains and even has drilled side plates to save a few pounds.

Good enough for MotoGP, good enough for me.
http://www.1tail.com/sa/p/520_RXO_Chain_110_Links_ -_Gold.htm

I got mine from my local aftermarket shop for cheaper than above but that's what I run. Don't buy a cheapo and you are good.

I like the idea of a lower weight rear sprocket for sure. I have had good luck with Vortex and Renthal.

Search and you will find many arguments on this one...
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Sloppy
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the belt assembly is actually lighter than a chain assembly. Not sure, but that's what I recall...
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Buellfighter
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)






I like belts and chains.
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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hmm this is defiantly filibuster, I always used chains but one thing is they are messy and i dont like that!
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Chasespeed
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stick with the belt. I have probably 70-75(guestimate)k HARD HARD miles on mine....

Keep it loose, and check it when you think about it... other than that... no worries...

BTW, I know on MY 99, I have a plate that makes belt changes easy... 15 minutes.. on the side of the road...

Chase
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Jos51700
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like belts. Lighter, rob less power, no greasiness, and no case breakage when a link lets loose.
Just my preference.
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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Case breakage. We cant have that! Hhhm never had that type of damage.
I wonder what the weight difference is, I dont need to weigh anymore. But if someone knows the weight of each id be interested!
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Bad_karma
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clean, quiet, gearing well suited for the road and power produced, good life span, less maintenance and unfortunately probably the future due to EPA and tree huger types that support social cleansing.
Joe
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Jstfrfun
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My'99 has the removable section and the 2K that I tore down had it too. If it was a short term issue I,m glad I've got the ,99...still intact.

The belt is for sure more reliable and less maintenance. When you figure in cost of replacing chain and sprockets the belt is much cheaper...unless you buy cheap junk. a good 530 chain is 120, rear sprocket 50, front sprocket 30. A new Gates belt is about 150.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was only done for one X1 Model year ...

All X1s have this piece...

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Kalali
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"That was only done for one X1 Model year ...

All X1s have this piece..."

And that makes all the difference in the world...

If I remember correctly, the new Goodyear belt I put on a couple of weeks ago is good for 100K miles...of course "normal" riding...I also remember reading that the new Buells do not require belt replacement at all.
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