| Author | Message | ||
     Ochoa0042 |
I was at the buell inside pass track day and noticed that the XB's had a 1125 frame on them with ram air ducts and such??? Were my eyes playing tricks on me? Does every XB have the swap, because it looked like the R had the stocker and all the others had the 1125? | ||
| Glitch |
Were my eyes playing tricks on me? Yes. Two totally different frames. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
I was checking buell.com.... and saw there are two types of XB frames.... are there any benifits of the new one over the old one? to answer my own question, the new one holds 4.4gal and the old holds 3.82gal of fuel (Message edited by ochoa0042 on October 30, 2008) | ||
| Hogs |
2004 xb12R best frame shortest of over all Fastest too, if in Black Color... All other years far way behind. | ||
| Glitch |
The older XB frames had a hole through the left side for the intake, the newer XBs intake comes through the air box top. | ||
| Glitch |
Older XB frame  | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
I was planning to have a friend to seal up the hole with his welding expertice, and then buy a airbox modd from the newer years and bolt it on has anyone here done this modd to their bike? | ||
| Glitch |
No one has thought it'd be worth the effort. If you do decide to do it, make sure they know exactly what they're doing, and remember to get all that burnt up lining out of there, and re-line it really well. Otherwise, you'll have to use that spare frame, and start all over. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
I was planning to have a friend to seal up the hole with his welding expertice, and then buy a airbox modd from the newer years and bolt it on has anyone here done this modd to their bike? Now this is another practical use for duct tape. Seals the hole cheaply but if the mod doesn't feel good then it's easy to undo. And inside the airbox, nobody sees it. No, I haven't done it. Not sure it would be worth it and, with all my expertise in welding (25 years), "friend" would have to be more than just a welder to do aluminum on a naked frame/gas tank. | ||
| Oddball |
What about a piece of aluminum flashing cut and shaped to fit with a suitable edge and use industrial adhesive to secure it. This maybe. http://www.liquidnails.com/products/product.jsp?pr oductId=48 | ||
| Glitch |
IIRC...gas eats liquid nails | ||
| Jos51700 |
Late-model airbox baseplate fits early-style frames. Welding on FUEL CELL not required. | ||
| Glitch |
Yeah, but it sounds to me like what he's after is a larger fuel tank. | ||
| Reepicheep |
If you really want to do it (which I would really not recommend), you are probably better off fabricating a separate fuel cell that fits in that hole (and maybe even hangs down a bit) and that has fittings and external lines plumbed on that are attached to strategic parts of the frame and fuel pump. You would probably need two lines. Less invasive to the frame, and could probably ultimately deliver more capacity (as the tank could probably extend down into what the snorkel used to be. | ||
| Jaimec |
The difference between the 05 and 06 "franks" in fuel capacity is .1 gallon. Is it REALLY worth all the effort??? | ||
| Punkid8888 |
it would probably be easier and cheaper to get an 06+ frame and do a frame swap, then you could sell your old frame to make back some money | ||
| Marshj |
NOT WORTH THE HASSLE. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
it wouldnt be too hard.... just open the tank drain the gas and let it sit for a few days to let all the vapor out and such.... cut out the snorkel hole.... and then weld on a plate to seal the holes top and bottom, and you have an extra quart of gas.... well the guy i know.... his whole family is surrounded by their own welding buisness, he's a really good welder one of the best. I think its kinda hilarious that his mother even does a type of welding for her career, she sodders circuit boards and such, not exactly welding but it is as close as it can get, lol.(respectively) For a school project he made a custom 14foot aluminum trailer, every weld was spot-on perfect, and he made big bucks selling it, very nice | ||
| New12r |
So, you want to pull the frame and strip it, cut it, weld it, re seal it(it is sealed from the factory and you will have to clean all the old sealer out) just to get 10 extra miles of fuel range? That is a lot of effort for what I see IN MY OPINION as 0 gains. It can be done, but I could think of a lot of things to do besides that with the cash I have. | ||
| Froggy |
You would be better off using your money to fab up an Unobtainium primary cover  | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
what do you guys mean by re seal-ing?  | ||
| Froggy |
there is a liner inside the frame for the gasoline. If you do any welding/cutting you will damage the liner and have to redo the whole tank. Similar to a liner in a swimming pool. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Why don't you just carry an MSR bottle of gas if you really want an extra quart of fuel? Can it be done? Sure. Is it worth the effort? Hardly. | ||
| Moosestang |
I assume the gas would cause corrosion without the liner? There are lots of aluminum fuel cells out there, used a lot in racing. Do all of them require a liner? | ||
| Glitch |
It's cast so it's porous. It's not made of sheet aluminum. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
there is a liner inside the frame for the gasoline. If you do any welding/cutting you will damage the liner and have to redo the whole tank. Similar to a liner in a swimming pool. never knew anything about a liner.... oh well, it was just a thought anyways  |
