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Fireman4u
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 02:54 am: |
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Doubled, that is great! I think that is excellent what court does, and my hats off to him for that. But again I did not deserve the type of response I got, all he did was basically make fun of me and the problems im having. |
Pariah
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 03:12 am: |
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Fresno: I tried to get a refund through my dealer, but they said they couldn't do it because I already paid for it (what kind of explanation is that?). In some ways, my dealer blows... after two visits, I can't even get the re-flash. It's a matter of time, too. There is no such thing as a quick visit to my H-D/Buell dealer for something Buell related... they always have surprised looks on their faces whenever I ask for something for my 1125R ("You want a what?!"). So I'm going to look seriously at an aftermarket solution. I know the integrated brake/turn rear lamp may not be ideal, but it's better than non-functioning turn signals (or metal housings that do not yield). |
Doubled
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 03:17 am: |
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All I was trying to get across is that in some instances it may benefit you in the long run to just let it go. I think this may have been one of those instances. |
Smoke
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 06:13 am: |
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left signal lasted 9000 miles/ right signal 9500. threw on some old LP's for the ride to Indy and back and developed massive water pump housing leak 30 miles from the house on my return. stopped for gas and a pee, pushed bike to the side after refilling and when i came out of the quick stop i was greeted by a big, big puddle under the bike. no overheating while riding, highest temp 208 passing through Baton Rouge at 5pm. looks like internal seal failure, weep hole preventing water from making it into the engine through the water pump driveshaft. taking it to dealer today. will post results. had a great trip, bike really likes temps below 90F. tim |
Buellborn
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 09:09 am: |
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When a required by law item (turn signal) repeatedly breaks down cuss words do seem appropriate. I don't think God is posting here so worship should not be required. The Bible says there is only one God and you should worship no other. Does Buell really need people to point out what is the right thing to do? Just do it or your competition will. butt kissing not required. |
Bigdaddy
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 10:03 am: |
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Buellborn, You're way off the beaten path. If you're equating not calling someone an "a$$hole" to kissing up, well, I'll never be able to explain it to you. Worship Court? That was pulled from deep dark zone of zero thought -- know your history, try some due diligence, search works great. |
Glitch
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 10:33 am: |
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OK, let's all chill out a bit. This can and will (I believe) be sorted out. Fighting on the BadWeB, where there are more than a few willing to help, won't get anyone very far at all. I totally understand the frustration, trust me. I bought the first version of the XB9S. The belts were bad and I went through 4 belts, at my expense, because the belt is viewed as a wearable item and isn't covered under any kind of warranty. I was pissed, but kept it civil. Buell eventually addressed the issue, and all Uly owners got the benefit of a "lifetime" belt. Buell ain't perfect, and neither is any other company. Court is one of a kind, he has inside contacts and can and often does get things done. My advise would be to call Buell customer support, and very politely describe the problem. Also I'd talk with Court with a little more respect before you go off. Court may not post the way you'd like, but so what? It's not about how many posts you have, it's how you act before you know who's on your side, and who can help you out. Will this get solved by the end of the business day? Doubtful, but Buell has a lot of bikes to deal with, both sold, unsold, built, and still in process. I wish y'all with problems the best, and hope everything gets solved very quickly. Sometimes we just have to take into our own hands, especially those of us like me who are more than just impatient. Also Bigdaddy is good people, and sucks up to no one. He will however go out of his way to help as well. Please read what you're about to post before you click "post" and ask yourself if you'd like to be on the receiving end. |
Ezblast
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 10:45 am: |
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Step away from the crack pipe - lol - if turn signals where ever my only concern - I would never care - your freaking on nothing. EZ |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 12:12 pm: |
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Pariah, I would definitely call BMC customer service...I don't believe it would matter not if you paid for it or not. In order to expedite the cooling fan replacement on my XB (€avoid the first trip for them to diagnose that the fan is bad) I special ordered the cooling fan myself. When the diagnosis was a bad fan, it was sitting in stock, ready to be installed. Refund issued immediately. I don't see why this is different than your situation. |
Clarkjw
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 12:13 pm: |
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When I got the newest flash this morning, they told me my rear signals were out. This is a very common issue for 1125Rs. Buell should fix this. I don't actually care though. |
Kravfighter
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 12:54 pm: |
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no offense hopefully, but, many are having problems with the turn signals, LED's are supposed to be efficient and last long, and many are not gaining the benefits of LED's. We should be upset! But, its been said that arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics......win or lose, you're still retarded |
Court
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 01:48 pm: |
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>>>I don't actually care though. Why not? |
Clarkjw
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 02:12 pm: |
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Complaining about possible 3rd degree burns and lurching when throttle opens hold much more weight than a rear signal or a terrible seat. You've made me and others out to be undeservant whiners who should've purchased another bike. I just want Buell to be fair This should be low on the priority list, far behind MPG and drivabilty. Now if it were front signals, that'd be a safety issue. I sure as hell won't pay shop time to have this done. Buell can just send me the signals/fuse/wire/whatever.} See you Saturday, Chelsea. |
Fresnobuell
| Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 - 08:38 pm: |
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ALL turn signals are equally important...when my rear is out, I feel unsafe. I can give hand signals, but the cagers that I am most afraid of have no clue what hand signals are! |
Court
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 08:00 am: |
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>>>ALL turn signals are equally important. I couldn't agree more. After installing the luggage on the Uly I am finding an excellent platform for mounting addition signals and brake lights. I was coming through Times Square at 10:15 last night and was really wishing I had one of this eye catching brake lights. |
Rah7777777
| Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2008 - 08:14 pm: |
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Man oh man!! lets keep our cool here! I agree that ALL your signals are important and Buell knows that. But for anyone who has seen behind the curtains of a big company such as Buell, knows that its difficult to get the corrections made quickly. There is a good amount of loops they have to go through. I'm pretty sure some engineers have and will be working on correcting, hell they probably already have a fix, just waiting on the correct parts or etc. to get in so it can go down the assembly line. Which i'm sure is no fast task! But give it some time and i'm sure it will all work out. And Thanks Zac for the kind words on XB Lights! Keep it safe! -Robert P.S. no need to take offense or try to cut folks down, especially good folk like Court! just give it time and you will, in the long run see the benefits of LED! |
Pariah
| Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 12:05 pm: |
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Hey Robert, Couple questions: What's your feeling about integrated turn signals versus the "stock" types that stick out, with regard to visibility? It seems that if the blinkers are bright enough, even if the signal lights are integrated, people can't miss them. Love your web site, by the way (but I couldn't tell what the integrated blinkers would look like "on the road"). Do you have any pics or animations of that? And maybe they're on your web site but I've missed them... Second, if we sent you our stock blinker housings, could you replace the guts with better stuff? I'm thinking for 1125Rs... Thanks, Takis |
Rdmwc
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 03:22 pm: |
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one of my rear turn signals went out the other day too! i was quite upset, i feel very unsafe! its definately just the led assembly or circut board for it. i removed both rear assemblies and switched them and the one that didnt work still didnt work and vice versa. i'm going to do some testing on it in the days to come. if i look closely they still flash, very very dimly and rapidly. they "spaz" if you will. |
Eagle1
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 05:03 pm: |
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One of my rear signals went out today, but I haven't had a chance to trouble-shoot it and see if it's just a bulb. What are you guys getting replaced? Is there even bulbs in them or are they LED's like the front signals? |
Helicon
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 05:34 pm: |
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My left turn signal went out this week, the bike is in the shop getting the reflash and if i'm lucky they said they might have the turn signal in stock since they have had other bikes with the same issue. They said that even some of the replacement LED's that they have ordered have not worked. I guess my question is ... if this is obviously a problem, when will it be fixed? Or has it been already? |
Stewadi
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 05:43 pm: |
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Add me to the list. Left rear out at 1800 miles. |
Rah7777777
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 06:04 pm: |
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Well, looking at my buddies new CR today, it looks like they are using only 3 LEDs in each rear signal. These LEDs arent the best in my book. they are the small panel mount kind. I tried opening the signal up, but it looks to be sealed and seeing how he has had the bike less then a couple hours, I didnt want to go breaking anything. But Kevyn did tell me once they go out, he will just have me upgrade them. So once that happens and it probably will, I will post up for you guys to see. I think the integrated signals that I offer are a little brighter then the stock ones during the day. Not sure about night, as I have not seen the CR's signals at night yet. But i'm thinking mine will still be a little brighter. I don't have any other pics of the signals installed on the road. its really hard for the camera to pick them up, or hell pick up the brake / running as well. In the pics they all just come out looking an orangish color, when in person you can tell the difference no problem. But you can mouse over the images on here...http://www.xblights.net/products.html and it will animate the pics. do it on the very bottom one and it goes through running, brake, left and right turn signals. and if you click the picture it will take you to more shots like here.... http://www.xblights.net/morepics/morepicsc2s.html But like I said, in photo the turn and brake look the same color...they are not! its just too hard to capture those LEDs! I should be able to build a better signal, but I really need to get a housing from one to play with to be sure. If anyone has one they don't need let me know and I can see what I can make from it. Personally I think the shape and location of the stock signal looks really good! and i hope they can get the problem resolved! Thanks guys and keep it safe! -Robert www.xblights.com |
Helicon
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 06:24 pm: |
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Robert ... what are the chances you'll start offering your own replacement LED turn signals with maybe 18-20 led's that are smaller and brighter? |
Kttemplar
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 07:38 pm: |
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All I know is that once my rear signals go, I am switching to aftermarket LEDs. I may even just do it and be proactive, since I have experienced just about every other problem that has been discussed about this bike. Mike |
Fireman4u
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 09:20 pm: |
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Robert, any idea what could be taking these led's out? I guess a power surge could but then why is it only the rears and not the fronts? Scott |
Pariah
| Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2008 - 11:46 pm: |
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Robert: I think I can send you a signal housing to mess with... I bought an entire assembly not long ago. Any place I should send it in particular? I think a current surge is the most likely explanation for these signal failures. I mean, brand new LEDs are burning out. I don't know how the LEDs are arranged, but if they are in parallel and there is a current surge, the rears are more susceptible (than the fronts) because there are fewer LEDs (only three in the rear signal lights) so the surge current affects each LED more? Just a theory... Takis |
Krassh
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 12:03 am: |
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Picked mine up from having the left rear turn signal replaced, front brake line, neutral switch and having them powder coat the exhaust. When I called them back to let me know I could pick it up today the service manager goes "after we replaced your left the right went out". They had another customers bike in and they took his right off to check on mine and his is dead to. Both his worked when he dropped his off. Now both his are dead and my right one is dead. Yeah and the Service manager made a comment "Guess I should have them stock a few huh?" I was like yeah would be a good idea. |
Black_snowman
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 12:30 pm: |
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Ya, I had to get my left replaced a couple weeks ago. I should check it to see if there's any difference between it and the old one. |
Choppercz
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 01:43 pm: |
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My left rear signal went out friday night while riding (5500 miles). Definetly unsafe. Especially if you don't realize they are blown quickly. My dealer has a a new signal on order for me. I hope that Buell addresses this issue soon. Now I am expecting the right one to blow sometime soon. |
Buellborn
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 03:10 pm: |
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You guys are mistaken, you are mathematical insignificant. Remain calm, these are manufactured my an AMAZING vendor. Found earlier in this thread. >>>WTF kind of cheap vendor did buell get these things from????? It appears to be an AMAZING vendor . . . how cool is it that they can make 10,000 motorycles and somehow single your's out? Statistically. . . .do the math with me here. . . . . you are about a 1 in a 34,550,000,000 chance. If I were you I'd buy a lottery ticket. In all seriousity you DO (I hope) understand that something, unique to your bike, is making these fail right? Court
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